Talk:Lesser Caucasus

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Is Sabalan Lesser Caucasus?[edit]

On Wikipedia page about mount Sabalan first sentence said: "Sabalan (Persian: سبلان [sæbæ'lɒːn], Savalan ) is an inactive stratovolcano in the Lesser Caucasus mountain range and Ardabil Province of northwestern Iran."

If this is true, then it is highest peak of Lesser Caucasus?

On Lesser Caucasus page it is written: "The highest peak is Aragats, 4,090 m (13,420 ft)."

Obviously informations doesnt match.

Crobackpacker (talk) 01:00, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Armenian name[edit]

I don't believe that Լեսսեր Ցաուցասուս is the correct Armenian name of Lesser Caucasus. I have looked up the Armenian letters in Armenian alphabet and realized that it transliterates as "Lesser Caoucasous". Looks like someone attempted to write the English name in Armenian script, instead of figuring the real translation. Or is that a joke? --Zeman 21:23, 29 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That's definitely nonsense, I don't know what the name in Armenian is, but Caucasus ist Կովկաս Kavkas, so I deleted it 84.162.22.100 16:19, 15 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Highest Peak[edit]

In article Gyamysh was specified as the highest peak 3724m. However, Mount Aragats is the part of Lesser Caucasus, and it's peak is 4090m. According to "Encyclopedia Britannica" it is the highest peak. So I updated the article accordingly.

Appearance of Term[edit]

It should be mentioned that the term "Lesser Caucasus" is a Stalin-era inventory. One cannot meet it on the maps before that time. Simultaneously, a title "Big", "Greater", and rearily "Nothern", appeared before the name of the original Caucasus Range at indications in the Soviet maps.

While during long millenium of the history of the region's geography, the Caucasus is considered as a single mountain range. The area, which was called a "Lesser Caucasus" by Stalinists, actually represents the Soviet part of Armenian Highland. So-named "Lesser Caucasus" is distinctly divided from the original Caucasus Range by the Kura-Arax Lowland, while it is not divided from the remained part of Armenian Highland otherwise than by Soviet-Turkish state border. Thus, the term "Lesser Caucasus" shall be referred to as belonging to politology rather than geography.

212.34.225.50 (talk) 06:26, 13 February 2014 (UTC) 212.34.225.50 (talk) 06:21, 13 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Merge with Anticaucasus[edit]

@Казбекович and Shadowowl: I suggest that Anticaucasus be merged with Lesser Caucasus. They are clearly describing the same geographic feature. The distinction between the two names appears to have political significance, but that's something which can be discussed in a single merged article. I have no particular opinion on what this merged article should be called, but having two distinct articles makes no sense, as I pointed out when I originally declined this draft. -- RoySmith (talk) 13:59, 31 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

So, you back. Ones again, your suggestions is destructive. It was enough damage have been done over Caucasus and it's people by Stalin and his personal dog Beria, by deporting whole nations and changing original historical names of the region. Russian and georgian Bolsheviks and nationalists was siding with mladoturks(ittihad be terraki party), the murders of Armenian nation. That is way they was siding together, to bury Armenian nation, like you want now to bury my article. Artificial name "Lesser Caucasus" was created to undermine armenians on they own land in Eastern Armenia.Эльбрус Казбекович (talk) 17:18, 31 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Honestly, I'm not trying to be destructive. I'm just trying to do what's best for the encyclopedia. It's obvious that there's a political aspect to the name. But, that's not a reason to have two different articles about the mountain range, with different names. A single article, perhaps with a section about the naming controversy, would cover the topic better. In fact, maybe both Anticaucasus and Lesser Caucasus should be merged into Caucasus Mountains. -- RoySmith (talk) 18:05, 31 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Support. The difference in name can be covered in a 'Name' section. It's not developed enough IMO to warrant its own article, as it stands (and not all of it's about the name anyway), and AFAICT the name is not notable enough to warrant an article. Which name the merged article would go under would be a matter of COMMONNAME. But, since we're talking about two different ranges, I don't think it would be helpful to merge w 'Caucasus'. At least, IMO that should be a separate discussion (e.g. following up on the thread started above in 2014-2-13). — kwami (talk) 21:39, 31 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Firs of all , the article is about original ancient geographical name of this mountains. If we really wishes to help Encyclopedia, we should merge Stalin's artificial "Lesser Caucasus" into new article "Anticaucasus mountain system". Until when Western Encyclopedias going to follow soviet tyrannical rulers self made geographical names???

Second, very important aspect of this article is to brig understanding about difference of two geographical provinces : 1) South Caucasus and 2) Transcaucasia,which are divided by Anticaucasus mountain system.Эльбрус Казбекович (talk) 12:01, 2 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]