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ERC winners

Please can somebody offer a third opinion on the recent edits to the table in the 'winners' section on European Rally Championship. There is some discussion on the talk page.

The editor might have accepted that the manufacturers they were adding weren't champions, but looks like won't accept that the cars driven by the champion drivers do not therefore become 'winning cars' equal to a championship, which is what the table looks like now, and the 'winners' section was called 'champions' at my last attempt to tidy it. To me it's too much information posing as misinformation (and being added at 70? edits in the past couple of days), what's best? Rally Wonk (talk) 16:57, 8 June 2023 (UTC)

Steve Millen

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Would someone please check recent edits by an IP on 7 June 2023. They changed the birth date from 17 Feb 1953 to 17 Feb 1950 with reference '"Millen"(Steve Millen autobiography),"The cutting edge"(Rod Millen autobiography)'. The edits used the wrong syntax which broke a template. Does anyone have info on this? Johnuniq (talk) 08:42, 14 June 2023 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Birth_date_and_age

Add the citations after the }}. Try Birth date and age|1950|02|17|df=yes

One of those books is searchable online but I couldn't find any supporting or opposing text. Rally Wonk (talk) 17:15, 14 June 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for investigating. Given that ref 2 says "Born: Feb 17, 1953" and we can't find anything supporting the 1950 change in the IP's ref, I will revert the edits as unsupported. Johnuniq (talk) 08:01, 15 June 2023 (UTC)

Hillclimbing

Why does hillclimbing belong in this project? Does anybody here contribute? Rally Wonk (talk) 11:13, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

Flags - Teams and Manufacturers

Issue: There is never sources provided to support flags appearing by names of teams and manufacturers. Proposal: Is it best to remove them?

For example, on 2024 World Rally Championship-2, AEC – DG Sport Competition have Belgium flag. Then there is the old favourite: Ford, 1973 World Rally Championship (amongst other articles).

Why do we feel compelled to add flags? I can see on the DG Sport article it is a company based in Belgium, is that entirely relevant to WRC2? I can also read Ford global HQ is in the USA. But so what? Why do we add flags to articles with a rally/wrc scope where there is no source or explanation providing the contextual relationship.

This conversation is seen at points of conflict of application. In Ford's case, I often explain rules that even the FIA aren't keen to promote, else we would have sources. Rally Wonk (talk) 11:17, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

I fliped through major motorsport event articles like F1, FE, WEC, MotoGP, etc. All of them provide flagicons ahead of entrant names. For the sake of the consistency, would lean oppose on this. Also, sources for WRC2 flags. Unnamelessness (talk) 12:41, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

Support series season article names

I was just about to undertake moving the WRC2/3/Junior season articles from the extended names. Is anybody unhappy with 2013 WRC2 Championship, etc? With 40 or so pages I thought it would be best to be clear.

The full season articles (2013 World Rally Championship) have championship in their names and thus make sense. Obviously the old names do, but renaming literally to 2013 WRC2 looks unnaturally abrupt.

F1 support, 2012 FIA Formula Two Championship, also adds championship. I'm not seeing 'season' appended across motorsport in general, ie. 2013 WRC2 Championship season, and I guess 'common names' are not an issue.

Sorry if this has been discussed before. Rally Wonk (talk) 09:17, 18 May 2024 (UTC)