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Promoted by The ed17 at 07:12, 30 June 2011 (UTC) [1][reply]

James B. McCreary[edit]

Nominator(s): Acdixon (talk • contribs • count)


Trying to get back into the swing of content improvement and article promotion since the birth of my first child. I'd like to ultimately take this article to FAC but figured this might be a good intermediate step. Granted McCreary is better known as a politician than a military figure, but his military service does seem to have been an asset in his early politicial races, and was certainly an issue in his first run for governor. I welcome your comments and hope to respond in a timely manner, but I ask your indulgence if I don't get back promptly. Such is the way of things with a seven-month-old to attend to. Thanks. Acdixon (talk • contribs • count) 14:22, 25 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Sources are good Some fixits and considerations. Fifelfoo (talk) 01:43, 26 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    Use the same style for citations in Further Reading as you do in your Bibliography
    • Done.
    No publisher location? Johnson, E. Polk (1912). I am aware works from 1912 may not have listed publisher locations, but double check
    • The book's title page listed both Chicago and New York. I'm guessing Chicago is more likely for this book.
    "Biographical Directory of the United States Congress" may be worth formally citing in full to take it to FAC
    • Wonder why we don't just modify {{CongBio}} to match {{cite web}}? Seems to defeat the purpose of consistency.
    Excellent encyclopaedia citation: Harrison, Lowell H. (1992).
    • Thanks!
    " Lexington, Kentucky: The University Press of Kentucky. " either always cite UPoK with location, or never cite with location?
    • Copied and pasted these cites way too many times. Eventually, I'll remember to check this.
    "Burckel, Nicholas C. (October 1978)." page run for the entire article within issue 76 for the bibliography? Page runs for contained chapters generally in the bibliography? Some Wikipedians believe this is optional for style due to table of contents in issues and collected works. You may believe this too, but if you haven't thought about it, have a quick think and consider your position.
    • My position would be to provide it if folks think it's helpful, I guess. I've done so here.
    Cites are good
    OCLCs pass
    No over-reliance, HQRS central
  • Support - not my area of expertise but I have reviewed due to the lack of other comments to date:
    • The citation check tool reveals no errors (no action required).
    • No dabs and external links check out (no action required).
    • File:James B Mccreary.jpg lacks alt text (although its not a requirement - you might consider adding it though).
      • I usually do, but I worked on this infobox so long ago I must have forgotten. Added.
    • The Earwig tool reveals no copyright vio issues (see [2]).
    • Missing word here I think: "where he remained prisoner through", possibly "where he remained a prisoner through".
      • Fixed.
    • Grammar here "future elections if the bill were not passed in the session", should this be "future elections if the bill was not passed in the session"?
      • I'm no grammarian, but I think this is an example of the English subjunctive. I'm open to correction on that, though.
        • Not sure either, might be the difference b/n American English and Australian English. Not a war stopper though. Happy to leave it as is. Anotherclown (talk) 03:25, 11 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    • Grammar again "Following these defeat, he resumed", should be "Following these defeats" I think.
      • Yep. Fixed.
    • Overlinking of J. C. S. Blackburn, need to unlink some.
      • Hmm. I'm only finding this twice – once in the article and once in a succession box.
    • Although I'm no expert the images appear to all be in the public domain and appropriately tagged. Anotherclown (talk) 10:04, 9 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the review. For some reason, I have a lot of trouble finding reviewers for most of my articles. Acdixon (talk • contribs • count) 15:18, 9 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support: Looks fine to me, but I am also not an expert. I have a couple of minor comments, but nothing to hold up promotion in my opinion:
    • in the lead, I'm not sure whether this is an example of how US English differs from Australian English or not, but to me it seems like there are some missing words here: "Shortly after graduating law school, McCreary was chosen major of the..." (specifically perhaps this might be smoother: "Shortly after graduating from law school, McCreay was chosen as a major in the..." ). Additionally, the choice of words here depends upon whether or not "major" in this context is a rank or an appointment. For instance, "Smith was a major", or "Rupert became brigade major of the 11th Brigade". As such, the question to ask is, were there multiple majors in the 11th Kentucky, or just one?;
      • I believe "Shortly after graduating law school," is acceptable in US English, but I'm not opposed to adding the "from" if you think it helps. As for "McCreary was chosen major of the", I believe each unit had one colonel, lieutenant colonel, major, and one other rank which escapes me at the moment that formed its leadership. Since I primarily do politician articles, I can't be sure about that, though. I also believe it reflects the wording in the sources, but I'll have to double-check that too.
    • "Democratic party" and "Democratic Party" - inconsistent capitalisation;
      • Fixed.
    • "Free Silver" and "free silver" - inconsistent capitalisation. AustralianRupert (talk) 01:15, 11 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
      • Fixed.
Thanks for the review and your support. Acdixon (talk • contribs • count) 01:33, 11 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Comments. As always, feel free to revert my copyediting. Please check the edit summaries, and find and fix all the second commas. I got halfway down, to James B. McCreary#First term as governor. - Dank (push to talk) 03:44, 20 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Only found one second comma to fix, but I'm still learning to spot them. Didn't see any issues with the copyediting. Acdixon (talk • contribs • count) 13:59, 20 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
There are at least 10. See WP:Checklist#second commas. - Dank (push to talk) 14:18, 20 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I found a few more, although I'm not terribly confident in all of them. I still don't think I found 10, though. Acdixon (talk • contribs • count) 13:50, 21 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
All the missing second commas I see fit the pattern of "July 4, 1863" or "Richmond, Kentucky", both of which need commas at the end. Checking just the first two sections, there are 3 missing in Early life and 3 in Early political career. - Dank (push to talk) 14:19, 21 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Well, that explains why I was missing them. I was going on your earlier statement that "I got halfway down, to James B. McCreary#First term as governor". I think I found all of them now. Acdixon (talk • contribs • count) 15:01, 21 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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