Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of members of the Council of Keble College, Oxford/archive1

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The list was promoted by Dabomb87 18:17, 2 January 2010 [1].

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List of members of the Council of Keble College, Oxford

Nominator(s): Bencherlite^Talk 22:05, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

• Featured list candidates/List of members of the Council of Keble College, Oxford/archive1

Well, I ran out of lists to write about Jesus College, Oxford, and so have moved on to the next college alphabetically, as part of my plan for world domination. I've written articles for 15 of the 54 names on the list. 7 names are "blacklinks" because I don't see that they're sufficient notable for their own articles (e.g. never made it into Who's Who, didn't get an obituary in The Times) and I don't think that being a member of the Council without more is sufficiently notable to trump a lack of coverage about them. No dab links, all images have alt-text and are from Commons, only one external link. Have fun. Bencherlite^Talk 22:05, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 09:03, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Comments from the right shade of blue.... Read that first sentence and tell me if you think it should end somewhere....! Yes, it was as long as one of John Keble's sermons. Reworded. Does Royal need to be capitalised? No It Did Not. I prefer refs to be ordered numerically, you have [4][2] at the moment. Ouch. "the meetings made him and his wife, Lavinia, tense." - a bit "factoid"y for me this, not particularly scintillating... Removed, remainder of sentence shifted into following para. "on a constitutional part with" - part or par? par "Finish" seems a little strange, wouldn't End be better, i.e. end of term? No big deal. End " who was a Student (i.e. Fellow) of" - don't understand this... Christ Church calls people who would be "Fellows" at any other college "Students", as well as calling students "students"; typical confusing nonsense from "the House". Reworded. Pellew note has a full stop, others don't (even those with seemingly similarly structured sentences)... Same for Lygon. Perhaps I'm missing something...? One was a mistake, one was a sentence. Reworded to eliminate full-stops. Ref 11 needs an en-dash, not a tilde. Poor eyesight I guess that bold in ref 2 is as a result of the template? {{cite book}} uses bold for the "volume" parameter, but it does look odd, so I've edited the citation. The Rambling Man (talk) 14:05, 27 November 2009 (UTC) Thanks for your comments. Hope it's looking better now, and that the move is going well. BencherliteTalk 22:03, 29 November 2009 (UTC) Move is going fine, thanks, besides the lack of broadband... The Rambling Man (talk) 09:03, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

• Support - I really have nothing to add: this is a fine list that covers an obscure but interesting topic comprehensively and well, that I thoroughly enjoyed reading. Excellent work. (By coincedence, it seems likely that the black linked William Sackville-West is the father of the subject of an article I wrote a few years back: Charles Sackville-West, 4th Baron Sackville. I agree that he probably isn't notable, but I do enjoy these unexpected connections that Wikipedia can throw up).--Jackyd101 (talk) 01:47, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
• Comment – There are a lot of old images in this list, and I'm uncertain about the licensing in a couple of cases for the photos next to the table. Can we find someone more knowledgeable than myself on image licensing to check the photos? Giants2008 (27 and counting) 23:16, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

Oppose world domination but support article

• "and many were not otherwise linked to the university": does this mean that many had no link with the university prior to joining the council, or that aside from being an alumni of the college had no connection with the university? Other than that, the lead's good and answered all my questions (how the Council was selected, its role, etc).
• Was the Warden chosen from or by the council?

Unfortunately, I can't bring any specific knowledge to this review, the subject is completely new to me. I was looking for more to say (if only so the review wouldn't look painfully superficial!), but I think the article meets the FL criteria already. Well done on creating a great list. Nev1 (talk) 01:32, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

• Reworded as "many did not have other continuing links with the university" - some were alumni of Keble or elsewhere but were making their mark in the wider world rather than as university academics.
• I'm sure they did, will double-check my (limited) sources when I'm back at work next week and give a specific ref if possible. Thanks for your comments. Bencherlite^Talk 15:26, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Support, Comments resolved. Good work, Mm40 (talk) 16:34, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Resolved comments from Mm40 (talk)

Comments from Mm40 (talk) Does "the early church" refer to the Roman Catholic Church or the early Church of England? Catholic, clarified. "between nine and twelve members" can just be "nine to twelve members" Done "any vacancies arising" i don't think "arising" is needed here changed to "power to fill any vacancies arising" The sentence beginning "There were often arguments during" sounds odd: there were only arguments when Talbot was Warden? Not much is given in the sources about how the council worked in practice, or how it worked with the various Wardens, so I can't say whether the council only argued with Talbot... One of the items in key has a period while the other doesn't Added Some references have periods while others don't; all should have them Added The book in ref 2 has a location of publication while the books under the bibliography don't. Either all should have them or none should have them. Removed location The editors for Cameron and Archer should be alphabetized by last name. No, that's how it's published presumably because Cameron (as the Warden) is senior to Archer (a "mere" Fellow). I'll be happy to support once these minor issues are fixed. Cheers, Mm40 (talk) 00:43, 31 December 2009 (UTC) Thanks. Hope these changes keep you happy. BencherliteTalk 15:26, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

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