Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Flag of Azerbaijan/archive1

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The article was not promoted by SandyGeorgia 13:24, 9 June 2011 [1].

Flag of Azerbaijan[edit]

Featured article candidates/Flag of Azerbaijan/archive1

Nominator(s): Neftchi (talk) 09:24, 8 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured article because its an important article. I have worked on this page together with Zscout370. Recently, this article had a peer review, see here. Neftchi (talk) 09:24, 8 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose I wish I was consulted before this FAC has gone through. As a writer of a lot of flag articles that have gone to FAC, this even falls short of my benchmark. The technical specifications I wrote, so I know they are accurate. However, I need to stress to Neftchi to obtain "AZS 001-2006. Azərbaycan Respublikasının Dövlət Bayrağı. Texniki şərtlər." to make sure we got everything (but this won't cause the article to stop at FAC, since this document is mentioned in the article text). Symbolism I need to check out, ~~but I need to see what the current Azeri Government has in the terms of symbolism to see if they match historical contexts~~ (and see if the Turkish flag had any role in forming this flag).

The history section is something that I need to go over, but I have a lot of materials for the final Soviet Azeri flag that we have displayed. I need to make sure the sources are correct and provide some small details. I have the books at my home, so I can look at them and fix the sources.

In the Use and Customs, I do not like the chart at all. I want that to be converted to prose and a lot of uses of the flag are ignored, such as covering the coffins of state heroes (I remember seeing a funeral of 2 service members being decorated with the title Hero of Azerbaijan and both of their coffins were covered with state flags). Mourning protocol, like what we have with the flag of Japan must be included.

Influence and derivatives section is missing...everything. It only mentions how the flag inspired words used in slogans and the state anthem. The national flag, or at least the design of it, is used in various flags of Azerbaijan (Navy, Border Guards, Presidential standard, Army, etc) and those are not even covered. I can do SVGs without any issues, and if I cannot do the SVGs, I have located a website that have scans of official Azeri law (and those are PD under their copyright rules).

In short, this article is no where near there to FA, or even GA. I will work with this user to make it happen, but if you ask me, this needs a lot of work (not to mention the typical stuff at FAC that I even face, such as copyedits, image checks, reference checks, formatting, MOS, alt text and any other things that have been added since I last went through here with the Russian anthem article). User:Zscout370 ^{(Return Fire)} 07:43, 9 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Another note on the sources; a lot of them point towards Flags of the World (a site that I frequently contribute to with text and images and used to maintain several pages on the site). A lot of the information there about Azerbaijan, I will have to double check and make sure that my Azeri sources are right. A lot of the information is based from Album des Pavillons (http://www.allstates-flag.com/fotw/flags/bib-pay.html#pay00) and since that book was published in 2000, there was a lot of changes and some information that I found for other nations that made it a source to not just accept blindly. I will need to have time on this, but it will definitely take longer than what the FAC period will allow. User:Zscout370 ^{(Return Fire)} 08:06, 9 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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