User talk:Neko-chan

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Welcome to the drive![edit]

Welcome, welcome, welcome Neko-chan! I'm glad that you are joining the drive! Please, have a cup of WikiTea, and go cite some articles.

Fix a random page lacking sources

CactiStaccingCrane (talk)18:53, 1 February 2024 UTC [refresh]via JWB and Geardona (talk to me?)

RFA2024 update: phase I concluded, phase II begins[edit]

Hi there! Phase I of the Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review has concluded, with several impactful changes gaining community consensus and proceeding to various stages of implementation. Some proposals will be implemented in full outright; others will be discussed at phase II before being implemented; and still others will proceed on a trial basis before being brought to phase II. The following proposals have gained consensus:

See the project page for a full list of proposals and their outcomes. A huge thank-you to everyone who has participated so far :) looking forward to seeing lots of hard work become a reality in phase II. theleekycauldron (talk), via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 08:09, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

URL vs DOI[edit]

I notice you are changing URLs to DOIs in the EI2 and EI3 templates. The reason I do it that way is because (1) Brill might change their URLs (in fact, they have) and (2) the EI2 template is designed (badly, IMO) to take you to a page of search results for the title if you don't supply a URL. Srnec (talk) 02:39, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Srnec Can you say more about part (1) of this justification? The idea of DOIs, in theory, is that they are resource names rather than locations so are more permanent. That URLs can change is one thing DOIs are supposed to help with (in theory, but I don't know how well Brill uses them) hence why DOIs are preferred when both are available. Point (2) seems a good one but, on its own, it suggests that a longer term solution is to fix the template and prefer DOIs over URLs. Cheers, MartinPoulter (talk) 13:31, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The question is whether the DOI is in the template under the field |doi= or is used as a URL under |url=. Because of (2), that is, because the template automatically adds a (hidden) URL when none is supplied, it makes more sense to just use the DOI as a URL. This way the URL is actually correct and is safer from link rot. There is no need to have both a correct DOI and a potentially incorrect URL. Yes, I think this is bad template design. At one point the template even had "(search results)" added to the page title, but this was dropped after complaints (including by me) at Template talk:Encyclopaedia of Islam, Second Edition. —Srnec (talk) 19:11, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Srnec I believe I have fixed the EI2 template, it works on my sandbox, I'll undo some reverts to check in more use cases ~ฅ(ↀωↀ=)neko-channyan 02:20, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, it appears to work now. Thank you! Srnec (talk) 02:40, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

'fix cite'[edit]

I have recently found myself cleaning up after your visits to pages where you convert |url= to |doi=. If you are going to 'fix' templates like this, you should also remove |url-access=subscription (or registration or limited) to avoid the resulting error message and inclusion in Category:CS1 errors: param-access. Here is the latest batch that I have fixed:

—Trappist the monk (talk) 11:32, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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