Talk:Turhan Sultan/Archive 1

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Image Issue - not Turhan Sultan

The image for this article on Turhan Sultan is not the correct image. It is of another woman, the Sultan's principle wife. Turban Sultan was a concubine and not his principle wife.

Mah-Para Ummatullah Rabia Gül-Nush

1. Two years ago, I remember this picture was listed as Mah-Para Ummatullah Rabia Gül-Nush Valide Sultan.
2. The picture is named as Emina Sultan ? There is no Valide Sultan with this name.
3. If Emina Sultan means "Emine Hatun, who is the mother of Murat II lived in 15th century-- again impossible
4. I think "Emine Sultan" refers to a general name: Valide Sultan of Anatolia and the picture is just a representative of Valide Sultan.
5. "Eumenia" is pronounced by the painter as "Emina" which refers to Diocese of Asia
6. Her face looks more similar to Mah-Para Ummatullah Rabia Gül-Nush...

212.253.113.183 (talk) 17:30, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

Hi. First, thank you for discussing and not edit-waring.

The picture is named "Emina Sultana" because it was believed in the West, at the time the picture was made, that the mother of Mehmed IV was called Emine and that she was the first wife of Ibrahim (cf here or here for these fictional accounts); the names were often inaccurates (Soliman's daughter Mihrimah was believed to be called "Cameria" e.g, see her portraits). The western portraits of sultans, sultanas etc were not made after the real persons, they are imagined and fictitious, so it is vain to look for similarities in the features, they don't depict the real faces of the characters. Finally, "Emine" has nothing to do with an ancient latin/greek name for the privnce of Asia, this is only a common widespread name.--Phso2 (talk) 18:37, 15 June 2016 (UTC)