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Non-NPOV tagging requires discussion

The problematic content has to be pinpointed and discussed; issues with an article aren't solved by hit-and-run tagging. 72.200.151.13 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 14:02, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

@3family6 on 8 August 2015 you placed an NPOV notice on the top of this article with the comment "a lot of opinion worked into this article, far from neutral" (diff). Please give what you think is the worst example so it can be discussed and fix if others agree with you. -- PBS (talk) 09:45, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
It's mostly the first few sections where I picked up the point-of-view issues. For example: "It is easy to find examples of backward and inflexible generals early in World War I. There were failures such as Passchendaele, and Sir Douglas Haig is criticised for allowing his battles to continue long after they had lost any purpose other than attrition." There are other highly opinionated statements like that. While they are mostly sourced with a direct citation, these sentences need to be re-written to indicate that the opinions expressed are those of the authors. Another, less obvious example: "At the infamous "Quinn's Post" in the cramped confines of the Anzac battlefield at Gallipoli, the opposing trenches were only 15 metres (16 yd) apart and the soldiers in the trenches constantly threw hand grenades at each other" (emphasis added). "Infamous" should either be put in quotes and attributed to an author, or else replaced with a more neutral word (such as "notable"). The main problem I saw with this article is that it is written like an essay. I considered placing that tag on the top of the article instead. I hope that helps. I'll try and clean up this article a bit myself, though I don't think I have access to some of the sources used.--3family6 (Talk to me | See what I have done) 14:17, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

Overreliance on Bidwell and Graham

Much of the commentary on tactics derives from Firepower; this source is good on WW2 artillery but the brief account of the development of mechanised warfare is a weak source for the tactical doctrines in WW1. Martinlc (talk) 15:59, 4 December 2016 (UTC)

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