Talk:Stefan Lazarević/Archive 1

Archive 1

What is this?

This beg the question:

Where, and on which side was Stefan during the Battle of Kosovo ?

This is stupid question. --Djordjes (talk) 05:51, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

He was 15 years old.... "Stefan Lazarević was the first European-style knight in Serbia"-false. There were many European-style knights in Serbia serving as mercenaries during the 13th century (Palman Braht for example,leader of "Alaman Guard" of Emperor Dushan,his brother and nefew).Even if it would say he was the first European-style ruler in Serbia it would still be false;Stefan Dragutin,son-in-law of Hungarian King,who ruled northern parts of Serbia in late 13th and early 14th centuries was European-style king also.

"He introduced knight tournaments, modern battle tactics, and firearms to Serbia."-very,very false. Knight tournaments were known in Serbia at least 50 years later during the coronation of Emperor Dushan,and possibly earlier.Although,slightly different than European tournaments they still existed. What exactly is considered by "modern battle tactics"?I think this deserves the explanation. Firearms were known in Serbia since middle of 14th century,and by some unverified accounts,bombards were used in Battle of Kosovo.Krusevac,capital of Moravska Serbia,had defensive cannon tower in 1374 when Stefan Lazarevic was born. And another thing.I was confused when i read the list of Serbian monarchs [1].Why is Despot Stefan given number 3? He could be the second (and last) of Lazarevic dynasty(since Lazar took the royal name Stefan),but there is no way he could be third.--Vizantinac 10:44, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

Not in 1406

In section Life it reads:Stefan defeated and killed his brother-in-law Bayezid I's son Musa during the Battle of Despotovac in 1406. Well, this claim needs to be corrected. Musa died in 1413. (See Ottoman Interregnum andMusa Çelebi.) Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 10:57, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

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Battle of Nikopolis

Before the battle of Nikopolis, all the Balkan rulers are accepted King Sigmund I, and expected from him help in the fight against the Ottomans, including Mircea the Elder, Vuk Branković, Ivan Shishman of Bulgaria, Manuel II Palaiologos and Stephen Dabiša of Bosnia. All of them, except Prince Stefan Lazarevic. His choice was Bayezid, whom was brought victory in battle. He was practically defeated Crusaders. Why did it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.46.173.135 (talk) 19:10, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

Because otherwise America (New World) would have been discover in the 20 century. And European colonization of America would not have started. The main reason for travel to the West [2] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.216.156.126 (talk) 19:51, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

Despot Stefan was not burried in Koporin

This article is based more on naive tales than on historical sources and facts.

Despot Stefan was not buried in Koporin monastery, as clearly attested by his biographer Constantine the Philosopher: "He made a tomb there (in Resava), where he was interred a little later." He did not built the Koporin monastery. That small monastery is the foundation of a local nobleman, which is attested by the partially preserved paintings in the monastery church. Despot's brother Vuk was killed in 1410 while he was trying to overthrow his elder brother as an Turkish ally. Construction of Resava was finished in 1418; Vuk could have hardly been buried there in 1410.

There wasn't any school organized in the monastery. Translating, and transcribing books was going on in every monastery; there were no "schools" for that. "Resava school" is a misleading modern term forged out to denote manuscripts from Resava monastery.

"Lazarević dynasty coat of arms" doesn't even deserve arguing... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dragoljub t (talk • contribs) 12:14, 1 March 2011 (UTC)