Talk:Soft tyranny

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soft despotism[edit]

should'nt it be merged with soft despotism? --Dert45 (talk) 12:43, 22 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Nope it shouldn't be merged, it would become obvious to you if you have read the Tocqueville's masterpiece. The Soft Despotism refers almost exactly to the 'welfare state'. It happens almost as if the society wishes it to happen, and then the society becomes weaker and weaker as influenced by it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.145.135.101 (talk) 00:30, 17 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Assessment comment[edit]

The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Soft tyranny/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.

The term "Soft Tyranny" does not actually appear in de Tocqueville's "Democracy in America" The word tyranny appears three times in the first fifteen pages, but not accompanied by Soft.

Last edited at 16:55, 14 April 2009 (UTC). Substituted at 06:27, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

I agree. I was actually looking for it in the pages specified in the original citation. What this probably means is that the content attributed to this source describes "tyranny" and not "soft tyranny." I have replaced some contents in the lead based on the sources I was able to find that specifically refer to the subject. The omitted content follows:
"In effect, soft tyranny occurs whenever the social conditions of a particular community hinder any prospect of hope among its members.[1] For Tocqueville, hope is the driving force behind all democratic institutions.[1] As such, whenever this all-encompassing hope is taken away from the people, liberal democracy fails."
I am also uncertain about the content in the Inciting Rebellions section, given that soft tyranny is considered a modern construct. I did not make any change there. This, however, needs improvement. Darwin Naz (talk) 02:01, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

POV[edit]

The arguement that soft despotism is "arguably throughout western democracies since the economic collapse of 2008" is POV and should be referenced or removed. I'd aim for the latter. Klbrain (talk) 00:07, 21 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]