Talk:Shepherd's leap

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The result of the move request was: page moved. Vegaswikian (talk) 18:58, 14 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Shepherd's leap → Salto del pastor — Relisted. Vegaswikian (talk) 18:33, 21 February 2011 (UTC) This is called "Salto del pastor" in most English sources, without translating it (all bolding and italics in the original):[reply]

Encyclopedia of traditional British rural sports, Routledge, 2005, p. 14, "Even more spectacular, however, is the salto del pastor (shepherd's jump) practised on the Canary Islands"
Michelin Green Guide Spain, Michelin, 2010, p. 56, "The salto del pastor (sheperd's leap) is a traditional folk sport (...)"
The Greenwood Encyclopedia of African American Folklore: Q-Z, Greenwood, 2006, p. 1256 "This spectacular folk sport of Salto del Pastor was called, 'The Shepard's Leap" (Wolf, 3)."
Canary Islands: The Bradt Travel Guide, Bradt Travel Guides, 2005, p. 199. "(...) find places to see displays of the salto del pastor (this is a display sport, in which (...)""

Also in German:

Lanzarote, Baedeker, 2005, p. 41 "Zu den trationellen Sportarten gehört auberdem 'Salto del Pastor' (Schäferspring), eine Art Stabsprung (...)" The bolded words in the margin also say "Salto del pastor".

Per WP:COMMONNAME: "(...) [wikipedia] uses the name which is most frequently used to refer to the subject in English-language reliable sources." --Enric Naval (talk) 10:25, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Weak oppose. The nominator claims that most English sources use salto del pastor, without translating it - but three of the four English sources provided by the nom immediately translate it. Without broader research, I'm hesitant to strongly oppose the move, but based on what was provided by the nom, I'm opposed for now. Dohn joe (talk) 18:49, 16 February 2011 (UTC) Support. I'm convinced by the arguments below, as well as by a Google Books search that favors "salto del pastor", so I'm changing my !vote. Dohn joe (talk) 17:10, 14 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I meant that they use the Spanish name to refer to the sport, and they translate only so the reader knows its meaning. --Enric Naval (talk) 21:59, 16 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

And one of those three sources translates it as "shepherd's jump", rather than "shepherd's leap", confirming that these are just on-the-fly translations and not the common name of the sport. First Light (talk) 01:27, 22 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Support - as the name used in most English sources. First Light (talk) 01:30, 22 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support, per above evidence (the fact that the sources give the translation after the original phrase show that they're just explaining the name, not using the English phrase as the name).--Kotniski (talk) 10:00, 14 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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