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Nisga'a or Tsimshian?[edit]

I "corrected" the opening assertion of the Nisga'a as being "part of the Tsimshian Nation", which is incorrect, and fixed the "Nishga" spelling to the modern form Nisga'a, but after reading through teh article a bit I'm wondering if there's not some confusion as to who it was from the south who invaded; unless it was an alliance of Nisga'a and Tsimshian; the line that tripped me up is:

A proper burial was held for these invaders from the Nisga'a villages of Mitlagaatla, Giitgáatla and Wakuutl’,

"Mitlagaatla" is clearly Metlakatla, "Giitgáatla" today is I'm sure Kitkatla...."Wakuutl’ doesn't look familiar, perhaps no modern village exissts....I'll x=post this to Talk:Nisga'a and Talk:History of the Tlingit and also the clan-article talkpages (Talk:Laxgibuu (Laxsibuu) etc. to see if someone can give the other side(s) of t his story, and also provided the much-needed refs this article still needs; there's no doubt about Shakes' notability, though, and the name "Shakesville" shows up in related acounts from Stikine River history (see thte BCGNIS refs for Choquette Hot Springs Provincial Park - it sounds like Shakes Island is anotehr name for Shakesville, i.e. the village of Chief Shakes.Skookum1 (talk) 14:14, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

could "wakuutl'" be "kwakuitl"?Inforlife (talk) 22:34, 20 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think so, the resemblance is incidental, and I've never seen any variants of "kwakiutl" resembling that; there are lots of disappeared Tsimshian villages, and the /tl/ is pretty common in all languages in the region.Skookum1 (talk) 00:49, 21 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Fort Stikine made[edit]

The section on Chief Shakes in this article, which I just wrote, needs some more details; but then there's lots more on Chief Shakes than what's already in this article.....just thought any here might find it interesting....Skookum1 (talk) 03:54, 21 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I made an edit while logged out[edit]

I made this edit while logged out.--Adam in MO Talk 08:06, 25 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Episcopal Church/Presbyterian Church:[edit]

the Reverend Harrry Corsar was the01:12, 1 December 2016 (UTC)63.140.109.146 (talk) Presbyterian minister in Wrangell who wanted to integrate the Presbyterian church, but was rebuffed by the Seattle general conference.  He returned to Wrangell and the congregation split, forming the People's Church which within a few years was admitted to the Episcopal church as St. Phillip's Church.  The name chosen I believe was to honor Phillip Klah, the Tsimshian who first evangelized the Tlingits in Wrangell. Fr. Corsar was active in promoting the education and equality of the native people, establishing St. Phillip's Academy for boys and evening classes for adults. He also was active in establishing the Bishop Rowe hospital in Wrangell which later was turned over to the city.  Tay, Episcopal church in Alaska