Talk:Ottoman Empire–United States relations

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Elkus statement[edit]

@5.151.3.190:

Hi! I read the statement by Elkus. I removed it on the basis of it being WP:UNDUE, as:

  • The scholarly consensus is that the Armenian genocide (as in a deliberate campaign by the Ottoman government to destroy ethnic Armenians in part) did happen
  • The Turkish government today admits that such massacres happened (while Elkus claimed they didn't), but that there was no deliberate campaign of genocide. Even the Turkish government now admits that "Turks massacred thousands of Armenians in the Caucasus" [in reality, Anatolia, not the Caucausus] is [otherwise] true!
  • Telling the reader to compare Mortgenthau's reports to Elkus's constitutes WP:Original research (and even if another academic told readers to do such, and one cites that academic, I think such statements would be better served in the Armenian genocide denial article, which discusses such genocide denials, than here)

WhisperToMe (talk) 05:18, 19 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]