Talk:Nicholas Alexios Alexis
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Contested deletion[edit]
This article should not be speedily deleted for lack of asserted importance because... (your reason here) --Nikos Alexis (talk) 20:42, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
What you have/see in the article is the 1/5 of what I want to write, which I have not written/completed yet. Sorry, I am confused and I do not know what happened. Perhaps my internet connection wasn't there ...... may be, my article wasn't saved properly.
Thanks for the speedy response...but...I had NOT finished my new page. How could it be stopped/disallowed before all the things/information appear on the new page? Sources and citations were not in the page since I had not finished it yet. The article is incomplete because it was not saved; it is not an edit on an old one that existed before. Sorry, I am puzzling...Was it a mistake that I tried to save it in the middle of the way, prior to finishing it? Sorry, again, but I think I should know. Thanks. I think that you have to tell me how To finish and save the new page so that you see the article, and the whole picture; what you have is truncated, only a few lines (4 or 5) you have. How can someone decide based on 5 lines out of 100? What will I do? Sorry and thanks for your time.
- you need to say something about him that is WP:notable and give a reference that backs that up. Just saying he was a cleric does not do that - there are many clerics in the world now and previously. noq (talk) 22:33, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
Here are four encyclopedias which I will include in the references together with many more, when you allow me to finish the article about Nicholas who was a key figure and a resistance leader in the independence struggle. It is a notable topic from reliable and verifiable sources. He is known as a patriot, a national hero fighting for freedom and justice. However,I have to write the page first, otherwise how can anyone judge it. Once again, only five lines, out of 100, have been saved. Thanks.
- Encyclopedia CHARI PATSI, Volume 4, pg. 608, Alexis Nikolas (1761-1818) at http://nlg.gr
- Encyclopedia YDRIA, Volume 5, pg. 438, Alexis Nikolas + Alexis of Malevizi >> same as above
- Encyclopedia DOMH, Volume 2, pg. 275, Alexis, priest Nikolas http://vikelaia.gr and http://nlg.gr
- Encyclopedia HLIOS-Newest Encyclopedic Dictionary, Volume 2, pg. 574, Alexis priest Nikolas >>
Contested deletion[edit]
This article should not be speedily deleted for lack of asserted importance because... (your reason here)I completed the article. Thank you for allowing me and thanks for making me to work late and hard; I enjoyed it,indeed. I strongly believe that this article will stay. It is about history and patriotism; it is about values and altruism. Because of people like Nicholas, and his family, we are free today. Young people will learn about history and will become better citizens. Young people may consider Wikipedia for pleasurable reading and for their school assignments. I thank you for your help; I know that you tried to help me; I appreciate it! I hope this article will not be deleted. Greetings from Toronto, the time is 1:11am and 11 degrees C. --Nikos Alexis (talk) 05:19, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
- @Noq: I've declined this because the article asserts that the person has been written about in encyclopedias. This is enough to pass speedy criteria. Whether or not they'd pass overall notability guidelines is another question as some of the sourcing here is somewhat weak. For example this link is about one of his offspring. This could possibly help show notability for the child, but not his parent. Notability must be shown through coverage in reliable sources that discuss the person himself and notability is WP:NOTINHERITED by the children's notability. I'll ask for someone from WP:GREECE to come and help with sourcing and editing since the coverage is likely to be in a language other than English. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 07:26, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
- Also, I do need to warn you Nikos - this should not turn into a WP:SOAPBOX for Alexis. Encyclopedia articles are not platforms to talk about patriotism or altruism. These things should be covered in a neutral fashion. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 07:27, 25 September 2015 (UTC)