Talk:Moonraker (sail)

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Reference to Cutty Sark[edit]

I deleted the last clause of this sentence:

This is a relatively unusual sail only used on very large boats built primarily for speed, such as the Cutty Sark.

Reasons:

Cutty Sark is a ship, not a boat;
While "very large" is a relative term, the tea clippers in particular were not "very large" even by the standards of their times; and
Is there support for the proposition that Cutty Sark had moonrakers? If so, then this part of the statement should be put back in, with citation to the source that says that.

Kablammo 01:09, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The Cutty Sark did not fly moonrakers. It flew upper and lower topsails above its main course; above them a topgallant; its uppermost sail was a royal (sail) Wikiuser100 (talk) 19:16, 27 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Move from Moonsail[edit]

Moonraker is both the more common and historically more accurate term for the sail. Google alone confirms this, with some 386,000 hits for the parameters "Moonraker" and "sail" (filtering out mere references to the popular James Bond movie, etc.) to just 88,000 for “Moonsail”. So does the authoritative Oxford Companion to Ships and the Sea (p. 558, 1988 edition):

Moonrakers, names given to the small light sails set above the skysails of square-rigged ships in very fine weather.

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It continues that they are also known as moonsails and rafees. Wikiuser100 (talk) 19:09, 27 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Oxford Companion to Ships and the Sea Peter Kemp, Oxford University Press, 1976

Higher sails than moonrakers[edit]

Named sails continue at least one higher than moonrakers. Above the moonraker comes the stargazer, for example. Source: "The Sailor's Word-Book" by Adm W. H. Smyth, 1867.

"SKY-SCRAPER. A triangular sail set above the skysail; if square it would be a moonsail, and if set above that, a star-gazer, &c."

I have seen references to cloudscrapers, which seem to be above the moonrakers, but I have not identified precisely what or where they are. At any rate, I will modify the article so it does not appear to say moonrakers are the tallest sails. --Taquito1 (talk) 07:13, 24 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Oxford Companion to Ships and the Sea Peter Kemp, Oxford University Press, 1976

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