Talk:List of nicknames used by Donald Trump about other people

This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the List of nicknames used by Donald Trump about other people article.
This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject.

Put new text under old text. Click here to start a new topic.
New to Wikipedia? Welcome! Learn to edit; get help.

Article policies

Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL

Archives: 1: 180 days

The contentious topics procedure applies to this page. This page is related to post-1992 politics of the United States and closely related people, which has been designated as a contentious topic.

Editors who repeatedly or seriously fail to adhere to the purpose of Wikipedia, any expected standards of behaviour, or any normal editorial process may be blocked or restricted by an administrator. Editors are advised to familiarise themselves with the contentious topics procedures before editing this page.

The contentious topics procedure applies to this page. This page is related to articles about living or recently deceased people, and edits relating to the subject (living or recently deceased) of such biographical articles, which is a contentious topic. Please consult the procedures and edit carefully.

This article was nominated for deletion. Please review the prior discussions if you are considering re-nomination:

No consensus, 2 May 2023, see discussion.
No consensus, 29 February 2020, see discussion.
no consensus, 29 December 2017, see discussion.

While the biographies of living persons policy does not apply directly to the subject of this article, it may contain material that relates to living persons, such as friends and family of persons no longer living, or living persons involved in the subject matter. Unsourced or poorly sourced contentious material about living persons must be removed immediately. If such material is re-inserted repeatedly, or if there are other concerns related to this policy, please see this noticeboard.

Donald Trump Mid‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Donald Trump, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Donald Trump on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Donald TrumpWikipedia:WikiProject Donald TrumpTemplate:WikiProject Donald TrumpDonald Trump articles
Mid	This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.

Lists Mid‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Lists, an attempt to structure and organize all list pages on Wikipedia. If you wish to help, please visit the project page, where you can join the project and/or contribute to the discussion.ListsWikipedia:WikiProject ListsTemplate:WikiProject ListsList articles
Mid	This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.

Politics: American Low‑importance

	Politics portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Politics, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of politics on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.PoliticsWikipedia:WikiProject PoliticsTemplate:WikiProject Politicspolitics articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.
	This article is supported by American politics task force (assessed as Mid-importance).

While the biographies of living persons policy does not apply directly to the subject of this article, it may contain material that relates to living persons, such as friends and family of persons no longer living, or living persons involved in the subject matter. Unsourced or poorly sourced contentious material about living persons must be removed immediately. If such material is re-inserted repeatedly, or if there are other concerns related to this policy, please see this noticeboard.

Biography: Arts and Entertainment / Politics and Government

	Biography portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography, a collaborative effort to create, develop and organize Wikipedia's articles about people. All interested editors are invited to join the project and contribute to the discussion. For instructions on how to use this banner, please refer to the documentation.BiographyWikipedia:WikiProject BiographyTemplate:WikiProject Biographybiography articles
	This article is supported by the arts and entertainment work group.
	This article is supported by the politics and government work group.

United States: Presidents Low‑importance

	United States portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject United States, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of topics relating to the United States of America on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the ongoing discussions. Template Usage Articles Requested! Become a Member Project Talk Alerts United StatesWikipedia:WikiProject United StatesTemplate:WikiProject United StatesUnited States articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.
	This article is supported by WikiProject United States Presidents (assessed as Low-importance).

Anthroponymy Low‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Anthroponymy, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of the study of people's names on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.AnthroponymyWikipedia:WikiProject AnthroponymyTemplate:WikiProject AnthroponymyAnthroponymy articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

This article has been mentioned by multiple media organizations:

Chris Cillizza (January 5, 2018). "The definitive rankings of Donald Trump's nicknames for his political enemies". CNN. I answered that question below – with my definitive rankings of Trump's nicknames for his most common political enemies. (Nota bene: There is an ENTIRE Wikipedia page dedicated to cataloging every nickname Trump has doled out.) {{cite news}}: External link in |quote= (help)
Chas Danner (May 5, 2019). "Biden Stumbles Into Trump's Nickname War". NY Mag. Trump's name-calling is prolific enough to have its own Wikipedia page, but the names themselves often seem lazily conceived, focusing on people's physical appearance or demeanor, or just reusing the same prepositive adjectives for different people, like "crazy," "wacky," or "lyin'."

Trump's Nicknames for WA state Politicians[edit]

"The Stiff" and "Zero Percent" in reference to Governor Jay Inslee not knowing of the Chop Chaz Autonomous Zone in Seattle.

"Child of Love" for Seattle Mayor Jenny Durkan who deemed Chop-Chaz to be a "Summer of Love" 97.126.112.105 (talk) 17:38, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

We generally do not list one-off Trump insults, but rather limit this page to listing nicknames that have "caught on," for lack of a better term. "Sleepy Joe,", "Little Marco" etc... If you can show sustained usage for your examples, feel free. Zaathras (talk) 18:03, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Reminder of 2021 RfC guidelines for nicknames[edit]

Just a friendly reminder to any editors that per the 2021 RFC https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_nicknames_used_by_Donald_Trump/Archive_1#RfC_on_inclusion_criteria, any nicknames in the list must be:

Described as a nickname by at least one secondary, independent, reliable source.

Described as being used by Trump by at least one secondary, independent, reliable source.

Trump should have used the nickname on at least two separate occasions.

There should be lasting coverage of the nickname.

Usage of these guidelines led to some significant trimmings of the list, and may require more (in particular the “lasting coverage” guideline excludes many of Trump’s nicknames). Dingers5Days (talk) 18:51, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Then this page needs a whole revamp because plenty of these have not been used multiple times. TheXuitts (talk) 21:14, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Feel free to delete nicknames that have only been used once; I think most of the one-offs were scrubbed. Usually the best way of telling this (IF they began usage during or before Trump’s presidency) is to search the nickname on factba.se which has pretty much everything Trump has said publicly until January 2021. Dingers5Days (talk) 04:43, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You're right but it's very difficult to remove them all. Chess (talk) (please mention me on reply) 23:23, 27 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

We should really make this a formal FAQ-like entry at the top as it pops up frequently. Zaathras (talk) 05:24, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Why though? If he has used it then he's used it. Why does it need multiple uses to get on here? Its like saying Leicester City haven't won the Premier League because it only happened once. Furthermore, why is a truth/tweet from Donald Trump not a reliable source? its literally straight from him — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23C7:C612:DD00:64D9:5E89:D089:9F58 (talk) 16:26, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Because Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information, among other reasons. Donald Albury 17:00, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Phoney Fani Willis should be included though surely, its quite a major one Helpful24 (talk) 09:19, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Trump has not used the nickname besides one Truth Social post in August 2023--if he has, no reliable source has noted it. [1] Dingers5Days (talk) 13:56, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oh ok, that's a shame, sad times Helpful24 (talk) 16:16, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Did he invent these nicknames?[edit]

There's a kind of consistent genius in many of these nicknames, and there are so many. It makes me think he didn't invent them spontaneously, but are the product of a professional group that first tests variations on a group to see which one gets the best reaction. The article doesn't discuss it, but surely someone has discussed it somewhere. -- GreenC 02:08, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Fat Alvin[edit]

New nickname for Alvin Bragg (source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/05/11/trump-bragg-trial-insults-rally-vulgar/). Probably a riff on "Fat Albert". I don't know how to edit this properly to do myself. 99.227.156.90 (talk) 19:17, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Only been used once, to my knowledge, so doesn’t fit the guidelines (yet). Dingers5Days (talk) 15:52, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]