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NPOV[edit]

I do not believe Robert Fisk is a neutral source for such quotations within the body of the article. --68.161.146.93 (talk) 03:49, 22 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well as long as Robert Fisk said so, it must be true.[edit]

LOL. And I do like the line about the pornographic magazines, cheap comics and puzzle books. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.68.95.65 (talk) 01:35, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Robert Fisk[edit]

Two comments have raised objections to Fisk's neutrality and been unanswered. I think it'd be proper to remove the second of the two paragraphs, since this short article doesn't warrant so much detail about controversial material. FrankForAllAndBirds (talk) 06:08, 26 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Fisk is a perfectly acceptable source here. nableezy - 02:58, 24 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Why would an individual who was so widely criticized be a good source? His obituary from The Independent, his last employer, said "His writing could be controversial - such as his later reporting on Syria - and sometimes brutal. Fisk’s style meant he picked up detractors, but also many loyal readers." That's one of the lighter criticisms among his obituaries.

The Guardian talks of "detractors - including some former admirers – accusing him of being insufficiently critical of his sources, especially those in the Syrian regime and army...his journalistic methods started drawing closer scrutiny leading to questions over the credibility of some of his work, though he remained influential and widely read."

Another Guardian obituary says "Fisk’s vivid and quasi-novelistic style helped to fuel gossip from journalists whose stories he frequently trumped, that he was prone to exaggeration to the point of making it up.

One distinguished American contemporary noted that Fisk had become a hero throughout the Arab world for his critical reporting on western policies in the Middle East, but that he was loathed by many colleagues, who accused him of sloppy and deceitful reporting."

I'm not calling for the removal of his information, but it is currently given too much weight. His notoriously purple prose about the gore of conflict is given more attention than this short article should have. The second paragraph from Frisk should be removed.FrankForAllAndBirds (talk) 08:58, 26 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'm going to remove the second paragraph now. Fisk is a controversial source, so his lurid prose shouldn't form the bulk of the article. One paragraph is enough. FrankForAllAndBirds (talk) 15:02, 9 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Reverting of citation of Journalist E.Bartlett marked vandalism is POV[edit]

This anonymous revert [1] assumes the link to an article of an awarded journalist about this prison is vandalism, besides being "Unreliable source". I agree about the latter, indeed, the latter was to journalist's blog. But the former is POV. I see that the IP(181.9.124.231) has later being blocked, but still i would like some discussion on the matter. Eva Bartlett spend ~6 years in Palestine, and despite her stance on other matters, she has done extensive work during that period that cannot be dismissed as vandalism. Sperxios (talk) 21:04, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]