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I would suggest some modification to this site! Re; these sections;

"At the top of the hill, a giant symbolic grave stands, known to the Europeans as the 'Giant's Grave'. It is believed by the Muslims being the 'Tomb of Saint Joshua"'."

I would suggest some explanation of the above might well be appropriate? First, "Giant's", could well be translated as "the Largest or Greatest!", thus "the Grave of the Greatest of the Saints!" Possibly some explanation could be provided to the viewer concerning the identity of "St. Joshua?" Is this of some relationship to the "Joshua/Joshuah" of the Old Testament? If not, then just who is suggested here? Second, the very name "Joshua / Joshuah" can lead to some misunderstanding or to some relevation! I would certainly propose that most all linguists of the Bible, will conceed that it is merely another version of the name, "Iesus / Jesus", etc.!

"A flat, rectangular earthen rise 17 meters long and 2 meters wide. It is surrounded with a high cast-iron grate, enclosed by means of an iron netting. The point is that the local inhabitants consider the grave miraculous and come here in order to be healed of their illnesses. But, the iron netting prevents the pilgrim from touching the holy ground inside the fence.

The ground is overgrown with thick grass. Several high trees grow. At the opposite end of the grave are two circular cylindrical stones, which are reminiscent of small millstones. In the center of one of them are seen a quadrangular opening and a very noticeable fissure. All this is enclosed by a stone wall, in which two doors and several windows have been made. The pilgrims enter one of the doors, pass around the grave in a circle and exit outside through a second door."

Just what "pilgrims" are allowed entrance to this area? Does anyone know? If so, just what are the sources?

"Yuşa Mosque Yuşa Mosque (Turkish: Hazreti Yuşa Cami) was built by Grand Vizier Yirmisekizzade Mehmed Said Pasha in 1755 with an adjacent shrine. This small mosque had stone walls and a split roof structure because it was burnt. The mosque was restored during the reign of Sultan Abdülaziz in 1863."

Perhaps the reader of the above site, could be reminded that the very word "Yusa" is but a version of both the name "Jeusus" and "Joshua, etc."!

Also, I would suggest a reverse connection to the Wikipedia site as found here; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoros_Castle , whereby one can read this statement; "History Strategically set near the confluence of the Bosporus and the Black Sea, the future site of Yoros Castle was settled by the Phoenicians and Greeks prior to the Byzantine period for trading and military purposes. The Greeks called the area Hieron (Sacred Place). The remains of temples, including Dios, Altar of the Twelve Gods, and Zeus Ourios (Zeus, granter of fair winds) were discovered in the area, dating to centuries BCE."

Concerning the above statement, it could easily be stated that these words are relevant; "The Greeks called the area Hieron (Sacred Place). The remains of temples, including Dios, Altar of the Twelve Gods, and Zeus Ourios (Zeus, granter of fair winds) were discovered in the area, dating to centuries BCE." I would suggest that the word "Hieron", meaning a "sacred place" be given some support, such as this site; http://www.searchgodsword.org/lex/grk/view.cgi?number=2411 It is certain that certain people have considered this place as "sacred" since it still stands and is protected! This site could also be included as a good source; http://www.equipgodspeople.com/lexicons/new-testament-greek/2411/ , and perhaps even this one, that lends a connection to the word "Stigmata!" http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://home.klis.com/~whittaker/allensweb/school/sciterm.term.essay.04.doc And if one is to carry on such research, then one should consider the easy transpositon of "ie" to "ei", and consider even this as a relevant site?; http://www.metrum.org/measures/obeliskoi.htm

While I do not really expect anyone connected to the above sites to take any actions at all (Like review my list of sources, etc.), I just thought I'd let you know my feelings!69.92.23.64 (talk) 18:19, 25 December 2010 (UTC)Ronald L. Hughes[reply]

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