Talk:Gibi ASMR

Gibi got married

We should edit the information in the article to reflect the fact that Gibi is now a married woman. Ben is her husband now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxxY3OllZmE — Preceding unsigned comment added by 139.168.41.26 (talk) 11:29, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

Real name

Should i put her name in here? How do we determine who gets privacy on wiki? — Preceding unsigned comment added by AntManSC (talk • contribs) 19:54, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

Unless there is an explicit link between Gibi and her real-life identity, it should not be included on Wikipedia. The link and information you provided most definietly did not do so. Additionally, per WP:DEADNAME (which I am using only for the verbiage, not necessarily the subject material itself) she is/was not notable under her real name, so (again) unless she comes out and says it in an interview or something there is very little likelihood of it being included on this article. Primefac (talk) 10:16, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

Frankly, her showing her real name in a video (even if it was by accident) IS an explicit link between Gibi and her real life identity. But we both know you simply don't want it in the article.68.107.88.226 (talk) 07:04, 10 October 2020 (UTC)

put her real name since she just released it in a video. AntManSC (talk) 22:50, 25 November 2020 (UTC)

Bet she wishes she hadn't let the Daily Northwestern include those pretty specific educational details in an interview... it makes sense that she tries to keep as private as possible, since there can be backlash against "influencer" types from rich backgrounds, and her dad's a multi-millionaire. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.109.205.122 (talk) 09:56, 23 July 2021 (UTC)

At this point I see AntManSC’s continued edits tantamount to vandalism as their only purpose seems to attempt to publish a “real name” using questionable justification. Their edit history contains no positive contributions. Ergosteur (talk) 14:54, 4 September 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 26 April 2020

update channel views to 820M and subscribers to 2.56M

source: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCE6acMV3m35znLcf0JGNn7Q/about 104.63.25.49 (talk) 00:10, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

 Done Aasim 03:23, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

1/30/21 Rewrite

Hello, everyone, this is Leopard of the Snows. I went through every available source (of which there were unfortunately few) and rewrote the article to better reflect what's been published about Gibi. Here are a few notes for future editors:

• Surname: Her last name is possibly known, but she has not yet released it herself nor has it been covered by any features, so it would be inappropriate to include here. In the event she or a secondary source publishes her last name officially, then as is customary, the page will remain called "Gibi ASMR," but the introduction should be changed to "Gina xxxxx, better known by her alias, Gibi ASMR..." and then the rest of the article should refer to her by her surname.
• News Coverage: I deleted the "News coverage" section because it is not useful to include a list of every article that's ever mentioned a famous person. I have kept a few of those sources in the new "Reception" section, and fixed two of them with Wayback Machine links so readers can check.
• Duplicate Source: The New York Times Magazine feature was reprinted in the Sydney Morning Herald a few weeks later with minimal changes. We should continue referencing the NYT-Mag piece in the future and not the reprint, since the NYT-Mag version is the original source. Leopard of the Snows (talk) 23:30, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for all this! I also made some small changes, mainly for prose simplicity. Cheers, Ovinus (talk) 23:40, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

@Ovinus: Hello! I just undid one of your edits and wanted to explain why: I don't think it's necessary to explain what ASMR is in this article. People coming to this page should reasonably expect to know what ASMR is already, and if not can click the link in the introduction. Also I rephrased the "early years of ASMR" bit because it was much earlier than when it could reasonably said to be mainstream; this was around 2011 (per the Chicago Tribune source). Every other change was appreciated and improved the article, thank you! Leopard of the Snows (talk) 23:47, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

@Leopard of the Snows: Agreed on your second revert. On the first one though, I think some background would be helpful because it gives less clueful readers an idea of what Gibi's content is like. Note that the lead of the ASMR article talks more about the sensation than the videos/stimuli that cause it (until the end of the second paragraph). But I don't feel strongly about it. Cheers, Ovinus (talk) 23:51, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

@Ovinus: Last ping for now, I promise! Maybe I (or anyone) could expand on what Gibi's content specifically is like, rather than filling the reader in on ASMR background. I see your point. Leopard of the Snows (talk) 23:55, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

No worries, ping me all you like! A few editors seem to not like them but I find them very helpful for keeping track of the discussions I'm in. And yes, I think that's a good idea. The specifics of ASMR might not be important, but a quick description of her content would be nice (if sourceable). To be clear, I've never watched her content/streams. Ovinus (talk) 23:58, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

9/4/2020 talk on Real Name

We have definite proof of her real last name of Lupica. isn't it our responibiability as a encylopedia to include her last name of Lupica? I wish her no harm or privacy violations from this but its been confirmed from multiple sources including her college sports pages. (https://www.theintell.com/article/20130520/sports/305209689) Links from her Sorority during college. (https://twitter.com/NU_GphiB/status/810900330804314113) and many more.

At this point its not a matter of if its her or not its a matter of if we are gonna do our job as as a encyclopedia and provide accurate info. That's my opinion. Would love to hear anyone else. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AntManSC (talk • contribs) 05:03, 4 September 2021 (UTC)

My opinion here is exactly the same as that of #Real name above, in which there is not an explicit link, just a name. Primefac (talk) 11:19, 4 September 2021 (UTC)

The lack of explicit link is basically the clincher, it has to be said. She is definitely, 100%, "Gina Lupica" (her college and school details, athletic career, profiles related to same with copious photographs and corroborative details, the fact that her sister's employment record, with her surname, gives her position as assistant to Gibi ASMR, etc), but there is not one single source linking "Gibi ASMR" with that name. This doesn't change the fact that that is who she is, it just isn't verifiable per Wikipedia standards. Also there's the question of whether or not it's bloody-minded to insist on including it here despite her attempts to hide it with "slipping up" and using "Klein" and other names for viewers to "spot"/ "catch her out" with, and professed intention of keeping more private than the majority of such online personalities. Given the aforementioned lack of sources directly linking the two names, it seems like there's no justification for doing all the original research- however comprehensive and indisputable- and trying to make it fit Wikipedia standards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.109.204.233 (talk) 22:17, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

ASCAP has Gibi ASMR's videos as produced by "Gina B. Lupica" (https://www.ascap.com/repertory#/ace/writer/1050147701/LUPICA%20GINA%20B / https://www.ascap.com/repertory#/ace/performer/ASMR%20GIBI). This is basically incontrovertible; see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(music) , which specifically identifies ASCAP as a reliable source, and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_licensing , which establishes its credentials beyond any question. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.109.203.149 (talk) 03:19, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

Also, the Northwestern University 2017 159th commencement programme lists one "Gina" in the "Bachelor of Science in Communication" section: Gina B. Lupica. Given the article's citation of two sources that identify Gibi- Gina- as having graduated in that in 2017, this is also decisive. See https://web.archive.org/web/20210524154810/https://www.northwestern.edu/commencement/ceremonies-and-events/2017-recap-gallery/assets/2017-commencement-program.pdf (the current site- https://www.northwestern.edu/graduation/events/past-graduations/- only gives the commencement programs back to 2019) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.109.203.149 (talk) 03:27, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 August 2022

The ASMR artist gibi goes by they/them pronouns. Please change "she" and "her" to reflect that. 166.181.81.142 (talk) 03:24, 29 August 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. - FlightTime (open channel) 03:27, 29 August 2022 (UTC)

As stated on her Instagram she uses any pronouns, so it doesn't warrant a change. However a mention of it could be potentially beneficial to be included in Personal life section. Jhud69 (talk) 04:15, 25 November 2022 (UTC)

Uses any pronouns

Gibi on her instagram page states her pronouns to be "any pronouns". She has not spoken about her gender identity beyond this as far as I'm aware but she has made trans focused ASMR videos before. While there is no official statement about her gender identity I think it could be a potential addition to the Personal life section. Jhud69 (talk) 04:13, 25 November 2022 (UTC)

While there is no official statement - which means that we should not be changing anything. Primefac (talk) 08:48, 25 November 2022 (UTC)

Her surname is not "Klein"

Her surname is well known by now, as per the discussion above. "Klein" made multiple- very conspicuous- appearances (the full name shown was "Gibi Klein", as though any evidence be needed that this is not her real name) in a YouTube video on the front of a DNA test result envelope. This notoriously private woman- to the extent the article mentions it, as do many articles etc about her- SOMEHOW fails to notice when looking at her video that her preciously-guarded "real name" is on display? No. Note her post on reddit here, when the "real name" appearing in that very video was questioned- https://www.reddit.com/r/asmr/comments/c6dzn5/gibi_asmr_dna_test_whats_my_ethnicity_intentional/ : "I'm getting into voice acting and they can't credit me as Gibi ASMR so we got ourselves a last name ^_^" "I would never want to release my legal name for safety reasons and neither should any other creator if they can help it. The lack of privacy on the internet is astounding/dangerous." In reply to someone asking "Did you choose the surname "Klein" because of H3H3?", she said "No I wanted something German and not distracting! It's also the last name of my favorite character in my favorite webseries, OFFCell ^_^ I hope they don't think I'm being creepy and trying to join their family LMFAO". That this is her reddit account is clear by her postings and context (she is moderator of the GibiASMR subreddit also, which makes her identity entirely clear). So from her very own mouth, "Klein" is merely a form of stage-name, whether or not this Digiday article gives it as her name or not. Some note should be made that she is "known by" that name, rather than implying it to be her actual name, which is clear misinformation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.109.204.15 (talk) 00:15, 2 June 2023 (UTC)

The details above, under "9/4/2020 talk on Real Name", establish her name beyond controversion; the fact that she prefers her full name not to be used online means it ought to be omitted on Wikipedia, presumably, but at any rate the inaccurate "Klein", disproved above, shouldn't be included here whatever Digiday (who?) say. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.109.204.15 (talk) 00:18, 2 June 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 25 July 2023

Replace amount of subscribers from 4.59 million to 4.75 million 2A02:1810:42A:2400:3CEF:A4FD:94FD:F8C8 (talk) 22:25, 25 July 2023 (UTC)

 Done HouseBlaster^talk 01:32, 26 July 2023 (UTC)