Talk:Ghaziyeh airstrikes

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POV categories[edit]

A number of controversial POV categories that state or imply this event was "a massacre" were added, w/o consensus, and subsequently removed by me and USer:BilledMammal. They were now re-added, again w/o consensus, in violation of WP:ONUS. Categories are covered by the WP:POVCAT guideline - "Categorization must also maintain a neutral point of view. Categorizations appear on article pages without annotations or referencing to justify or explain their addition; editors should be conscious of the need to maintain a neutral point of view when creating categories or adding them to articles. Categorizations should generally be uncontroversial; if the category's topic is likely to spark controversy, then a list article (which can be annotated and referenced) is probably more appropriate. Inf-in MD (talk) 23:34, 23 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

A POV dispute requires sources to dispute. But if killing 30 civilians is not a massacre because it is "controversial", I have some work to do emptying the "controversial" categories on Palestinian "terror" attacks. Toodles. nableezy - 14:16, 27 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
There is a dispute as to whether this is a massacre, a POV term that requires more than a simple body count. Inf-in MD (talk) 14:26, 27 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Massacre is an altname so not a POV term. The cat getout is "controversial" which is something else. I agree with Nableezy, two can play this game.Selfstudier (talk) 14:30, 27 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
We went over this at Talk:Wehda_Street_airstrikes#Recent_reverts, where the difference between saying something is "also called" a massacre by some in the article body (where you can provide the full context - who calls it that, who disputes it etc...) and labeling it a massacre in a category where no such context is possible was explained to you, including the guiding policy. Your editing with the same arguments here after you didn't get you way there is tendentious. Inf-in MD (talk) 14:38, 27 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I haven't reverted your cat removal so your "tendentious" argument is just more of your usual. As I said, two can play this game.Selfstudier (talk) 15:18, 27 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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