Talk:General der Nachrichtenaufklärung

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Dude, you left a message on my talk page, about a primary sources tag on General der Nachrichtenaufklärung. You do know I have been on Wikipedia for longer than a decade, and created over 400 article. So why the crass comment left on my talk page? If you had taken more than a few minutes to read the article and understood the nature of it, you would have realized it was about a secret German organization during World War II. How many historians and other writers, do you think, write about secret German/Nazi intelligence organizations during World War II. I'll tell you, you can count them on one hand. Nobody even knew about the organization until 1985-1989, when the NSA released a whole bunch of documents. So the idea there is going to be loads of secondary and other fancy sources you get in popular culture articles, is not there. That tag would sit there until end of time. I've taken it off. scope_creep (talk) 23:38, 6 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe you should refresh your memory about sourcing articles.-- Toddy1 (talk) 08:13, 7 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Dear scope creep, this article is not too long and is the only information you can get about many very important details! Thank you.--Le Huic (talk) 18:05, 31 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Important Individuals[edit]

Specialists employed at In 7/VI and GDNA[edit]

Mathematicians[edit]

The following is mathematicians worked at In 7/VI between 1941 and 1945^[1]

These three were considered the best. Döring did may original

Dr Herbert von Denffer (1907-1988), German-Baltic mathematician, director of the Munich Reinsurance Company - Did most of the work in groundbreaking studies. Rated highest by Buggish. DONE

Heinrich Döring Found this: [1] thesis
Werner Liebknecht I-57, I-82 DONE
Dr. Rudolf Hentze DONE
Dr Ludwig Föppl DONE DONE
Dr Auguste Gruber Ludwig-Maximilians-Universität München 1923
Dr Horst Schubert Mathematician. OKH/In 7/VI , Head of Russian section in 1943. DONE
Dr Bruno von Freytag-Löringhoff - Tester of m-40, mathematician. Invented by menzer, Vol 2 notes DONE
Dr Alfred Emil Richard Kneschke Extraordinary professor DONE
Dr David Lüders
Dr Friedrich Böhm Actuarial mathematician and university lecturer. DONE
Dr Johannes Marquart Actuarial Mathematician. Head of Section 1a, Group IV. DONE
Dr Willi Ludwig August Rinow Specialized in differential geometry and topology. DONE
Fräulein Novack
Dr Herbert von Denffer Actuarial mathematician DONE
Dr Otto Buggisch. DONE
Dr Rudolf Kochendörffer, Mathematician DONE
Dr Ludwig Falter. Justus-Liebig-Universität Gießen 1903 Email Request sent to the archives of Justus-Liebig-Universität Gießen 3rd April 2018. DONE

Dr Hans Pietsch Head of mathematical research department, Ph.D. Universität Berlin 1938, Dissertation: Über Flächen, die ein Bündel geschlossener Geodätischer oder ein Paar konjugierter Gegenpunkte besitzen, Advisor: Ludwig Bieberbach Baurat,REQUEST REQUEST MADE TO BERLIN UNI ARCHIVE Two attempts mades. Seemed to live in East Germany after war. DONE
Dr Guido Hoheisel, Mathematician Ph.D. Universität Berlin 1920 Dissertation: Lineare funktionale Differentialgleichungen Advisor: Erhard Schmidt. Prof Cologne University. Reg. Ret. I-176 DONE

Dr S. Doering. Mathematician of Inspectorate 7/VI, specialty: machine cipher and research

Dr Werner Schulz - Ph.D. Universität Berlin 1937 Dissertation: Reduzibilität, Irreduzihilität und Affektfreiheit bei gewissen Klassen von Polynomen REQUEST
Dr Fritz Hilburg wachmeister
Dr Helmut Blümel, Mathematician RESEARCH
Dr Friedrich Steinberg. Mathematician. Worked on M-94 and M-209, American Referat. Reg.Baurat RESEARCH
Dr Hans-Peter Luzius Actuarial mathematician. Workd on M209. statistician of the Alliance insurance company. Ph.D. Universität Berlin 1938. Dissertation: Methode zur näherungsweisen Berechnung des Risikoreservefonds in der Lebensversicherung unter Benutzung der Momente. Advisor: Paul Riebese 'DONE using Weirud T&F document.
Dr Günther Wünsche - OKH/In 7/VI, mathematical research department Ph.D. Technische Universität Dresden 1933 Dissertation: Über die Geometrie der Invaliditätsversicherung REQUEST

Sergins Samsonov wachtmeister. Russian specialst in Russian sphere A. Captured in USFET Intelligence service. Business man. I-176 Kurt Grambert, Dipl. Ing. listening to Russian X2 traffic. obergreiter Peter Luzins Dr. Maths Juterbog, berlin. Pupp with Wa Pruf 7/IV

Dr Kehren Catholic Priest, possibly Eginhard Kehren Rheinisch-Westfälische Technische Hochschule Aachen 1932
Colonel Dr Köpp, head in the west after 44. DONE
Ottokar Kuhn I-176.

Arno Graul Member of NAAS of KONA 1. Invented radio "fingerprinter."
Marquart - Commanding Officer. NAAS 4. Head of Group 14, Sub Section 1a. DONE
Dr Captain Wilhelm Vauck Specialized in Real functions. First Lt, Dr .Head of Agents section 1942-1945 DONE https://tu-dresden.de/ua/dokumentationen/alumni/das-alumni-projekt-des-universitaetsarchivs-der-tu
Dr Hans Gebelein Invented W-Square test, competitor of cryptographic Chi-test TODO
Dr Rudolf Bailovic DONE

Officers

Kunibert Randewick DONE

Language Research Specialist[edit]

Böhrisch
Bourguignon
Fräulein Dr Clare Herzfeld
Köhler
Kunzel
Frl Schmidt
Wirth

Linguists[edit]

Kuhn
Hemtze
Harrenberg
Jesse
Friede
Dreesen
Vanetin
Mueller
Diehl
Sauer
Jausel
Lindmeier
Lachner
Karrenberg
Troebucher
Hans Wrycza - War office cipher group.

Hollerith Administration[edit]

Schenke - Head of Hollerith-Abteilung administration.

References

^ "CSDIC(UK) SIR 1704 - Herzfeld. The Organization and History of the Cryptographic Service Within The German Army - OKH/AHA/In 7/VI later Ag N/Nachr Aufkl" (PDF). Retrieved 14 January 2017.

Translation from German to English[edit]

Does anybody know what this is, translate from German to English

Wehrwirtschaftsnachr

scope_creep (talk) 21:03, 2 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Litterally, it is defense + economy, but might refer to mobilization. — 2606:A000:4C0C:E200:0:0:0:2 (talk) 21:15, 2 June 2017 (UTC) —P.s: try translation queries at the language desk.[reply]

Wehrwirtschaftsnachr (WWN) or "military economy msgs" were bulletins about the Russian economic situation compiled during WW2 by German army signal intelligence based on intercepted Soviet radio traffic, see [2]. Blooteuth (talk) 22:54, 2 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

You seem to be getting good answers this time, but for future reference, the Language reference desk is really the right one for this sort of query. --69.159.63.238 (talk) 00:10, 3 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(EC): Wehrwirtschaftsnachr[.] is not a proper German word, it’s an abbreviation of Wehrwirtschaftsnachrichten (might also be spelt (spelled) Wehrwirtschafts-Nachrichten). Wehrwirtschaft has been translated as "war economy"; in this context, "report(s)" might be a fitting translation for Nachrichten (which has a whole range of meanings). Cheers ✦ _hugarheimur 00:16, 3 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Western Intercept[edit]

Vast size of usa net, difficult, I-78, Page 10.

Working On[edit]

4-figure Code

DB/Error?[edit]

What do you make of this? Search for 'minor traffic'. It's in one paragraph in the section, 'Western intercept'. Find when it was included in July 2017. See if you can find it in any intervening revision. Try searching for any change and the search seems to loop on the last change record. Is this some sort of occasional known anomaly or perhaps a DB corruption? Neils51 (talk) 10:57, 15 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see it Neils51. It might have been fixed. scope_creep (talk) 11:38, 15 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

scope_creep, have a look at say the last revision on 13 March, 2018. Can you find the string 'minor traffic'? I can't. Are you saying you can't find it in the latest revision? I have tried different browsers, so likely not cache related, etc.

Names[edit]

OKH/Chef HRüst u. BdE

[Sir1704-1] "CSDIC(UK) SIR 1704 - Herzfeld. The Organization and History of the Cryptographic Service Within The German Army - OKH/AHA/In 7/VI later Ag N/Nachr Aufkl" (PDF). Retrieved 14 January 2017.

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