Talk:Azores/Archive 2

Azores: Notable people

I have recently published a list of about 50 notable people from the Azores. It can be viewed here [1]

It has been reverted by User:Cristiano Tomás with this explanation:

notable people sections are generally limited to specifc locals, like cities and towns. Provinces, states, and other equivalents never have a notable section.

I would point to Madeira#Notable_people as another example nearby, but to avoid arguing the general issue here, the simple question arising, it seems to me, is whether readers welcome a Notable People section for the Azores? Views welcome.ArbieP (talk) 19:54, 12 August 2021 (UTC)

Hi User:ArbieP, thanks for creating a discussion on the subject here. Madeira is the odd man out, not the rule, and I have just removed its notable persons section. Not a single sub-national provincial unit across wikipedia, from Hawaii to Jalisco to Occitanie to Hokkaido include a section for notable persons, which are almost exclusively listed on city, town, county (or equivalent) articles. Province or state-level subdivisions are too large to make lists of all their notable people; it is inefficient, clutters the page with an arbitrary list, and more-over, it duplicates the lists made on individual pages of municipalities and other individual locales. There are good reasons why no equivalent page across wikipedia does this. Cristiano Tomás (talk) 20:20, 12 August 2021 (UTC)

@ArbieP: I have to agree with Cristiano Tomás. The Azores might have the same population as a decently sized city, but, like Cristiano said, it is odd to put a "notable people" section on a sub-national region. The list is also too big for that article. Though I don't see the problem in doing the same for each island, like you did with Pico for example. Average Portuguese Joe (talk) 16:56, 15 August 2021 (UTC)

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Biome

Biome section is mainly entirely dedicated on complaining with the environmental problems that islands have, not with the description of the biomes present on the islands, which is not good and realistic, I think. There are problems of course, but the part dedicated to it should be smaller.

But if we look better... Some conservation measures have been done in the marine area:

http://www.jornalacores9.net/regional/acores-passam-a-ter-17-areas-marinhas-protegidas/

http://ailhadasflores.blogspot.pt/2016/05/aumento-do-parque-marinho-dos-acores.html

Also laursilva was replanted with success in several places (thanksfully, maybe by miracle no one deleted it). There are also highland eccossystems relatively well conserved («turfeiras», charnecas macaronésicas, etc...). Also some laurissilva forest pockets. For the priolo convervation project, for example, there are areas reforested with laurisilva tree species. Vila Franco do Campo, was reforested recently with laurisilva plants. And I could mention much more.

After editing, posting sources and explaining where lauisilva and other ecosystems in the Azores still exist, I almost gave up on wasting my time on this wikipedia, because a smart *ss deleted all the data.

Settlement

"São Miguel was first settled in 1449..." Okay, that's 15th century, no?

So "From the first settlement, the pioneers applied themselves to agriculture and by the 15th century Graciosa exported wheat,..." cannot be right, can it?