Talk:Alp Arslan/Archive 1

Archive 1

Name

Is there a connection with the lion Aslan from the Narnia Chronicles of C.S. Lewis? -- 213.139.18.22 01:48, 27 March 2004

Yes, Aslan is a modern variant of Arslan

Since "Arslan" does mean both "valiant" and "lion", what is the meaning of "Alp"? dab 16:31, 6 Nov 2004 (UTC)

"Alp" means hero, it is a common name in Turkey.

Mistake

how can alp arslan have succeeded his uncle as sultan of oran? oran is in north west africa (as the link on the name demonstrates) but the seljuk empire never even extended into egypt. either their is a mistake with his title of 'sultan of oran' or an error with the link on the name 'oran'. -- 81.174.152.128 Fenrir 22:07, 13 November 2004

Date of Death

This is a puzzler. According to the first sentence, Alp Arslan died 15 November 1072; however, towards the end of the article (well, the copy I had before I editted it), he died either immediately after a severe wound by Yussuf el-Harezmi, or 4 days afterwards, on November 25 of the same year.

Can someone explain this difference? Or at least state which is the correct date? -- llywrch 02:40, 9 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Another source gives date of death as November 24. Others yet give it as December, 1072. User: Dimadick

POV issues

I can't edit this now, but I'd like to point out that this article is obviously biased. It talks about Alp Arslan's "greatness as a human being because of his treatment of the prisoners," suggests a career paralleling great conquerors (?), and contains other flattering or suspicious phrases. For one thing, I know he committed "many massacres" in Armenia; I can't quite imagine he would be as great, either in stature or in humanity, that this article makes him out to be. Brutannica 06:24, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

If nothing else, at least the tone should be shifted to something less worshipful. Brutannica 06:26, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

Not that I am a big fan of Alp Arslan but, even if he did order massacre of the Armenians, Alp Arslan is still not the only ruthless monarch of ancient times who is revered as a great ruler today, right? What did Alexander the Great do when he conquered Persepolis? How did Caesar treat the conquered celtic people? As much as I hate seeing people making up funny stories about old rulers for a proof of greatness, I hate seeing someone complain about 1000 year old maltreatment too. Yeah right as if Romanos Diogenes had won, he would not have invaded turkish, arabian or persian lands massacering inhabitants...74.132.201.115 08:21, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

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How do you know Alp Arslan committed "many massacres"in Armenia, Brutannica? Was it an eye-witness account? Seriously, I understand the talks about 1915 of Armenian Genocide and I think that article must be in Wikipedia. It is a good work. But let's talk about here. Everytime where a Turk is mentioned, here comes the magic words "massacred Armenians, barbar Turks." This is geting really boring, wikipedia is not the place for just throwing some claims into the middle. There is a big timeline difference talking about massacred Armenians, especially when we are at Alp Arslan's section.