Talk:Alaeddin Pasha

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Sultan[edit]

It is claimed that " While Orhan Ghazi became the first Ottoman ruler to take the title of Sultan, Alaeddin became the first Grand Vizier." But according to article Sultan it was Murat I who took the title Sultan. Which is correct ? Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 09:57, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not a vizier[edit]

According to Prof. Halil İnacık, Orhan's brother Alaeddin Pasha and the vizier Aleddin Pasha were nor the same person.(see:Halil İnalcık:Kuruluş Dönemi Osmanlı Sultanları, İstanbul, ISAM, ISBN:978-605-5586-06-5 p.71). I'll call the editor. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 08:56, 5 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Does Wikipedia consider Alaeddin Pasha 1 or 2 people?[edit]

Hello Wikipedia,

Recently I made an edit to the "Alaeddin Pasha" Wikipedia page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaeddin_Pasha), because in the section about his life it talks about him being the first Grand Vizier of the Ottoman Empire. I removed this section because there is a link to a second Alaeddin Pasha in the beginning, who is clarified as a second person who actually held this title (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaeddin_Pasha_(vizier) ). After I had made what I thought to be a correction, I was contacted by a User name Serols who said they had undone my correction because it was not "constructive". I will put the full text of his comment as the next paragraph.
"Hello, I'm Serols. I wanted to let you know that I reverted one of your recent contributions —specifically this edit to Alaeddin Pasha—because it did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you have any questions, you can ask for assistance at the Help desk. Thanks. Serols (talk) 15:31, 22 August 2020 (UTC)"
That is why I am creating this question article now. I assure that I'm not someone of malicious intent trying to mess with an article, but someone who just viewed what they saw as a discrepancy and tried to fix it. I just wanted to know if Wikipedia took the stance that there was in fact only one Alaeddin Pasha, which "Alaeddin Pasha (vizier)" alludes. "Some sources claim that Alaaeddin Pasha was Orhan's brother.[3] Although Orhan had a brother named Alaeddin Pasha, brother Alaeddin and vizier Alaeddin are usually not believed to be the same person.[2]" If Wikipedia does not take this stance, I believe that the references to Alaeddin Pasha (First son of Osman 1) being Grand Vizier should be removed. Probably by someone with more clout, as to make sure the change is permanent. I hope to hear information about this soon.

 Sincerely,
        Anonymous

Wrong Alaeddin[edit]

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