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Belarus Criminal Code (in Russian) Russian extract of the Criminal Code of Belarus Глава 20 Преступления против половой неприкосновенности или половой свободы Статья 166. Изнасилование 1. Половое сношение вопреки воле потерпевшей с применением насилия или с угрозой его применения к женщине или ее близким либо с использованием беспомощного состояния потерпевшей (изнасилование) - наказывается ограничением свободы на срок до четырех лет или лишением свободы на срок от трех до семи лет. 2. Изнасилование, совершенное повторно, либо группой лиц, либо лицом, ранее совершившим действия, предусмотренные статьей 167 настоящего Кодекса, либо изнасилование заведомо несовершеннолетней - наказывается лишением свободы на срок от пяти до двенадцати лет. 3. Изнасилование заведомо малолетней или изнасилование, повлекшее по неосторожности смерть потерпевшей, либо причинение тяжких телесных повреждений, либо заражение ВИЧ-инфекцией, либо иные тяжкие последствия, - наказывается лишением свободы на срок от восьми до пятнадцати лет. Статья 167. Насильственные действия сексуального характера 1. Мужеложство, лесбиянство или иные действия сексуального характера, совершенные вопреки воле потерпевшего (потерпевшей) с применением насилия или с угрозой его применения либо с использованием беспомощного состояния потерпевшего (потерпевшей), - наказываются ограничением свободы на срок до четырех лет или лишением свободы на срок от трех до семи лет. 2. Те же действия, совершенные повторно, либо лицом, ранее совершившим изнасилование, либо группой лиц, либо в отношении заведомо несовершеннолетнего (несовершеннолетней), - наказываются лишением свободы на срок от пяти до двенадцати лет. 3. Действия, предусмотренные частями первой или второй настоящей статьи, совершенные в отношении заведомо малолетнего (малолетней), либо повлекшие по неосторожности смерть потерпевшего (потерпевшей), либо причинение тяжких телесных повреждений, либо заражение ВИЧ-инфекцией, либо иные тяжкие последствия, - наказываются лишением свободы на срок от восьми до пятнадцати лет. Статья 168. Половое сношение и иные действия сексуального характера с лицом, не достигшим шестнадцатилетнего возраста Половое сношение, мужеложство, лесбиянство или иные действия сексуальногохарактера,совершенныелицом,достигшим восемнадцатилетнего возраста, с лицом, заведомо не достигшим шестнадцатилетнего возраста, при отсутствии признаков преступлений, предусмотренных статьями 166 и 167 настоящего Кодекса, - наказываются ограничением свободы на срок от двух до четырех лет или лишением свободы на срок от двух до пяти лет. (В редакции Закона Республики Беларусь от 4 мая 2005 г. - Национальный реестр правовых актов Республики Беларусь, 2005 г., № 74, 2/1112.) Статья 169. Развратные действия 1. Развратные действия, совершенные лицом, достигшим восемнадцатилетнего возраста, в отношении лица, заведомо не достигшего шестнадцатилетнего возраста, при отсутствии признаков преступлений, предусмотренных статьями 166, 167 и 168 настоящего Кодекса, - наказываются арестом на срок до шести месяцев или лишением свободы на срок от одного года до трех лет. 2. Те же действия, совершенные с применением насилия или с угрозой его применения, - наказываются лишением свободы на срок от трех до шести лет. (В редакции Законов Республики Беларусь от 4 января 2003 г. и 4 мая 2005 г. - Национальный реестр правовых актов Республики Беларусь, 2003 г., № 8, 2/922; 2005 г., № 74, 2/1112.) Статья 170. Понуждение к действиям сексуального характера 1. Понуждение лица к половому сношению, мужеложству, лесбиянству или совершению иных действий сексуального характера путем шантажа, угрозы уничтожением, повреждением или изъятием имущества либо с использованием служебной, материальной или иной зависимости потерпевшего (потерпевшей) - наказывается ограничением свободы на срок до трех лет или лишением свободы на тот же срок. 2. То же действие, совершенное в отношении заведомо несовершеннолетнего (несовершеннолетней), - наказывается лишением свободы на срок от трех до шести лет. (В редакции Закона Республики Беларусь от 4 мая 2005 г. - Национальный реестр правовых актов Республики Беларусь, 2005 г., № 74, 2/1112.) Статья 171. Использование занятия проституцией или создание условий для занятия проституцией 1. Использование занятия проституцией другим лицом либо предоставление с корыстной целью помещения (места) лицом, заведомо знавшим, что это помещение (место) будет использовано для занятия проституцией, или организация и (или) содержание притона для занятия проституцией при отсутствии признаков более тяжкого преступления - наказываются лишением свободы на срок от трех до пяти лет. 2. Те же действия, сопряженные с вывозом за пределы государства лица для занятия проституцией, либо совершенные должностным лицом с использованием своих служебных полномочий, либо лицом, ранее совершившим преступления, предусмотренные настоящей статьей, статьями 171-1 или 181 настоящего Кодекса, либо с использованием для занятия проституцией заведомо несовершеннолетнего, либо совершенные организованной группой, - наказываются лишением свободы на срок от семи до десяти лет с конфискацией имущества. (В редакции Закона Республики Беларусь от 4 мая 2005 г. - Национальный реестр правовых актов Республики Беларусь, 2005 г., № 74, 2/1112.) Статья 171-1. Вовлечение в занятие проституцией либо принуждение к продолжению занятия проституцией 1. Вовлечение в занятие проституцией либо принуждение к продолжению занятия проституцией - наказываются лишением свободы на срок от одного года до трех лет. 2. Те же действия, совершенные повторно, либо с применением насилия или с угрозой его применения, либо лицом, ранее совершившим преступления, предусмотренные статьями 171 или 181 настоящего Кодекса, либо лицом, достигшим восемнадцатилетнего возраста, в отношении заведомо несовершеннолетнего, - наказываются лишением свободы на срок от трех до пяти лет. 3. Действия, предусмотренные частями 1 или 2 настоящей статьи, совершенные родителем, педагогом или иным лицом, на которое возложены обязанности по воспитанию несовершеннолетнего, в отношении заведомо несовершеннолетнего либо организованной группой, - наказываются лишением свободы на срок от семи до десяти лет. (Введена Законом Республики Беларусь от 4 мая 2005 г. - Национальный реестр правовых актов Республики Беларусь, 2005 г., № 74, 2/1112.) (provisionally) english translation of the Belarus Criminal Code extract Chapter(Head) 20 Crimes against sexual inviolability or sexual freedom Clause(Article) 166. Rape 1. The sexual relations contrary to will of the victim with application of violence or over threat of its(his) application to the woman or its(her) relatives or with use of a helpless condition sufferred (rape) - is punished by restriction of freedom for the term of till four years or imprisonment for the term of from three till seven years. 2. The rape accomplished repeatedly, either group of persons(faces), or the person(face) who earlier has made actions, stipulated by clause(article) 167 of the present(true) Code, or rape obviously minor - is punished by imprisonment for the term of from five till twelve years. 3. Rape obviously juvenile or the rape which has entailed on imprudence death of the victim, or causing of heavy physical injuries, either infection of a HIV-infection, or other heavy consequences,- It is punished by imprisonment for the term of from eight till fifteen years. Clause(Article) 167. Violent actions of sexual character 1. Мужеложство (=sodomy), лесбиянство (=lesbian acts) or other actions of sexual character accomplished contrary to will of the victim (victim) with application of violence or with threat of its(his) application or with use of a helpless condition of the victim (victim), - are punished by restriction of freedom for the term of till four years or imprisonment for the term of from three till seven years. 2. The same actions accomplished repeatedly, or the person(face) who earlier has made rape, or group of persons(faces), or concerning obviously minor (minor),- Are punished by imprisonment for the term of from five till twelve years. 3. The actions stipulated by parts of first or second present(true) clause(article), accomplished(perfect,absolute) concerning obviously juvenile (juvenile), or entailed on imprudence death of the victim (victim), or causing of heavy physical injuries, either infection of a HIV-infection, or other heavy consequences,- Are punished by imprisonment for the term of from eight till fifteen years. Clause(Article) 168. The sexual relations and other actions of sexual character with the person(face) who has not reached(achieved) шестнадцатилетнего (=16-year) age The sexual relations, мужеложство (=sodomy), лесбиянство (=lesbian acts) or other actions сексуальногохарактера (=of sexual character), совершенныелицом (=adult), reached(achieved) eighteen-year age, with the person(face) who obviously has not reached(achieved) шестнадцатилетнего (=16-year) age, at absence of attributes of the crimes stipulated by clauses(articles) 166 and 167 present(true) Codes,- Are punished by restriction of freedom for the term of from two till four years or imprisonment for the term of from two till five years. (in edition of the Law of Byelorussia from May, 4th, 2005 - the National register of legal certificates(acts) of Byelorussia, 2005, № 74, 2/1112.) Clause(Article) 169. Dissolute actions 1. The dissolute actions accomplished by the person(face), reached(achieved) eighteen-year age, concerning the person(face) who obviously have not reached(achieved) шестнадцатилетнего (=16-year) age, at absence of attributes of the crimes stipulated by clauses(articles) 166, 167 and 168 present(true) Codes,- Are punished by arrest for the term of about six months or imprisonment for the term of from one year till three years. 2. The same actions accomplished with application of violence or with threat of its(his) application,- Are punished by imprisonment for the term of from three till six years. (in edition of Laws of Byelorussia from January, 4th, 2003 and on May, 4th, 2005 - the National register of legal certificates(acts) of Byelorussia, 2003, № 8, 2/922; 2005, № 74, 2/1112.) Clause(Article) 170. Compulsion to actions of sexual character 1. Compulsion of the person(face) to the sexual relations, мужеложству (=sodomy), лесбиянству (=lesbian acts) or to fulfilment of other actions of sexual character by blackmail, threat by destruction, damage or withdrawal of property or with use of service, material or other dependence of the victim (victim) - is punished by restriction of freedom for the term of till three years or imprisonment for the same term. 2. The same action accomplished concerning obviously minor (minor),- It is punished by imprisonment for the term of from three till six years. (in edition of the Law of Byelorussia from May, 4th, 2005 - the National register of legal certificates(acts) of Byelorussia, 2005, № 74, 2/1112.) Clause(Article) 171. Use of employment(occupation) by prostitution or creation of conditions for employment(occupation) by prostitution 1. Use of employment(occupation) by prostitution by other person(face) or granting with the mercenary purpose of a premise(room) (place) the person(face) obviously known, that this premise(room) (place) will be used for employment(occupation) by prostitution, either the organization and (or) the maintenance(contents) of a brothel for employment(occupation) by prostitution at absence of attributes more grave crime - are punished by imprisonment for the term of from three till five years. 2. The same actions interfaced(integrated) to export for limits of the state of the person(face) for employment(occupation) by prostitution, or accomplished by the official with use of the service powers, or the person(face) who earlier has made crimes, stipulated by the present(true) clause(article), clauses(articles) 171-1 or 181 present(true) Codes, or with use for employment(occupation) by prostitution obviously minor, or accomplished by the organized group,- Are punished by imprisonment for the term of from seven till ten years with confiscation of property. (in edition of the Law of Byelorussia from May, 4th, 2005 - the National register of legal certificates(acts) of Byelorussia, 2005, № 74, 2/1112.) Clause(Article) 171-1. Involving in employment(occupation) by prostitution or compulsion to continuation of employment(occupation) by prostitution 1. Involving in employment(occupation) by prostitution or compulsion to continuation of employment(occupation) by prostitution - are punished by imprisonment for the term of from one year till three years. 2. The same actions accomplished repeatedly, either with application of violence or over threat of its(his) application, or the person(face) who earlier has made crimes, stipulated by clauses(articles) 171 or 181 present(true) Codes, or the person(face) who has reached(achieved) eighteen-year age, concerning obviously minor,- Are punished by imprisonment for the term of from three till five years. 3. The actions stipulated by parts of 1 or 2 present(true) clauses(articles), accomplished by the parent, the teacher or other person(face) to which duties on education of the minor are assigned, concerning obviously minor or the organized group,- Are punished by imprisonment for the term of from seven till ten years. (it is entered by the Law of Byelorussia from May, 4th, 2005 - the National register of legal certificates(acts) of Byelorussia, 2005, № 74, 2/1112.)

Conclusion

The age of consent therefore is 16 years in Belarus.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.237.206.62 (talk • contribs) 16:49, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia

I've moved this to the talk page until we can get some clarification. The legislation pointed to by the link below hints that a "child" is one who has not reached 14 years (Article 71). It talks about statutory rape of a child at Section 188 and 189(2) prohibits sex with a guardian, teacher or etc.

BUT avert.org have it set at 16/16/16.

We need a better source.

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Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia The age of consent in the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia is not entirely clear. The Criminal Code, Article 188, reads: "A person who commits statutory rape or some other sexual act upon a child shall be punished with imprisonment of six months to five years. but "child" is not defined.

Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonian Criminal Code

---SNAP--- — Preceding unsigned comment added by Monotonehell (talk • contribs) 09:51, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Correction - Alderney

The article correctly states that Alderney is a member of the Bailiwick of Guernsey, however they have a separate legislature and the equalization of age of consent for homosexual and heterosexual acts is not yet in effect in Alderney. The law passed by Guernsey in March 2010 applies to Guernsey.

source: http://www.alderney.gov.gg/meetings/Policy-and-Finance-Committee-28-fs-06-fs-2010 (see: Section 53.4 - Restrictions on Homosexual Acts) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.215.90.188 (talk) 09:35, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

Lithuania

The criminal code of Lithuania was changed some years ago. The link is not up to date anymore. Here the official link to the criminal code: http://www.tm.lt/Default.aspx?item=kodeks&aktoid=42972

Can anyone find the relevant articles in the text and translate them?

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The age of consent in Lithuania is 14, as specified by the Lithuanian Criminal Code §142.

Lithuanian Criminal Code (in Lithuanian)

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this isn't quite correct. Article 142 of Lithuanian Criminal Code deals with breach of a copyright, not with age of consent.

   "142 straipsnis. Autorystės teisės pasisavinimas"
   "142 article.    authorship right  appropriation"

the relevant part for possible AOC laws is the 13. part of the Lithuanian CC:

   "Treciasis   skirsnis 
   13.          part     

   Nusikaltimai asmens       gyvybei, sveikatai,  laisvei  ir  orumui 
   crimes       individual   life,    health,     freedom  and dignity"

Up to now, there I could not find any law that would prohibit consensual sexual relations with minors - except they are abused by an authority like the parents (article 125).

So it seems that it's still correct that there is no explicit age of consent in Lithuania.

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corrected now Aivaras Zilvinskas (talk) 23:14, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

France

I'm unsure about the section on France here. The translated text reads "Sexual acts committed ... on a minor aged over fifteen..." I've checked the original French text which reads...

"Article 227-27 (Ordonnance nº 2000-916 du 19 septembre 2000 art. 3 Journal Officiel du 22 septembre 2000 en vigueur le 1er janvier 2002)

Les atteintes sexuelles sans violence, contrainte, menace ni surprise sur un mineur âgé de plus de quinze ans et non émancipé par le mariage sont punies de deux ans d'emprisonnement et de 30000 euros d'amende :

• 1º Lorsqu'elles sont commises par un ascendant légitime, naturel ou adoptif ou par toute autre personne ayant autorité sur la victime ;
• 2º Lorsqu'elles sont commises par une personne qui abuse de l'autorité que lui confèrent ses fonctions."

Which also translates to "over 15". My French is less than schoolboy in compentency, is this a loss in translation or is this article regarding acts on those aged 15 to majority? --Monotonehell 01:48, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

Yes, you're absolutely correct. My mistake. A better provision would be Article 227-25 which reads: "The commission without violence, constraint, threat or surprise of a sexual offence by an adult on the person of a minor under fifteen years of age is punished by five years' imprisonment and a fine of €75,000."

I shall update that entry! Chid12 12.57am, 19th April 2006

Very good, I must state again that your work here has been stellar! Second question: How does the French law define an adult? Does this law mean that it is not illegal for a minor to have intercourse with another minor under 15? That would be an interesting sidenote for this section. --Monotonehell 22:31, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

It seems that there's a mistake about the removal of the ban of homosexuality in France. AFAIK, it was removed during Mitterand's presidency in 1981 or 1982. Please have a look at swissgay.ch/breves/0106/breves100157badinter.html (in French) and also to http://semgai.free.fr/doc_et_pdf/pdf_these_articles_externes/ignasse.pdf (French & English). Look for the removal of the article 332-1 form the code pénal.

The history section does say that the final inequity was removed in 1981. What is it that you are disputing? --Monotonehell 16:07, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

As far as I know, homosexuality was banned before 1981, it wasn't just inequity. I can hardly imagine that there was an allowed age for homosexual relations in France in 1942, I've heard many times that it was Mitterand who removed the ban in 1981, and the links I provided tend to show that. That's why I think a correction may be necessary.

Well if you're sure of the fact and can show a source (preferably in english) go ahead and fix it! :) --Monotonehell 03:16, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

I finally checked the facts on fr.soc.homosexualite newsgroup, and the content of Wikipedia is accurate, although some interesting facts may be added (currently discussed in the newsgroup). Sorry for my mistake.

Me again. I found this link, in French, that shows that there are indeed many inacurracies in the part concerning France (my initial claim was also false) : [1]. If one day I find the courage to bring necessary corrections this will be good, but otherwise I let here my source so others can also verify it.

Germany

The age of consent in Germany is 14, not 16. There is only one exception: If

• the youth or his parents demand punishment AND
• the youth does not say, he/she wanted, initiated, enjoyed it AND
• the prosecutor can prove that the youth's ability to sexually self-determine oneself was lacking AND
• the older took advantage of this lack

ONLY then a punishment is possible. The situation is that practically no judgements exist regarding to this article.

There IS no absolute AOC of 16 years, in Germany there is an AOC of 14 years, as you can read everythere else: http://cridho.cpdr.ucl.ac.be/AVIS%20CFR-CDF/Avis2006/CFR-CDFAVIS2-2006.pdf http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schutzalter http://www.graupner.at/documents/Graupner-paper-kn-oFN.pdf -- —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 85.31.187.19 (talk • contribs) 18:01, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

In the Ages of consent in... articles on Wikipedia we list firstly the unfettered age of consent. That is, the age at which there are no restrictions, exceptions or special arrangements on who can consent to sexual activity with who. What you have listed above is a close in age exception or a similar situation. The law in Germany has a special set of criteria for those 14 to 16 and so that should be mentioned separately to the unfettered age of 16. This is how all similar laws are (should be) presented in these articles, as per consensus. It's very similar to the corruption of minors legislation that exists in other places. Although I agree it's not often used or enforced in Germany unlike some other places. --Monotonehell 13:28, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Greece

Question: is that "15 years of age" as Greeks measure age or as the rest of the world does? I think Greeks count the years of their age starting from 1 at birth not 0, don't they? In which case when a Greek says (s)he is "15" they would be 14yo in non-Greek terms?

Greeks I have asked seem to be unaware of the exact age of consent, some seem to believe it is 18. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.131.102.6 (talk) 14:13, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Hungary

Similarly to France above, the Hungarian translation reads "...sexual intercourse with a person who has not yet completed his 14th year..." Does this mean 15? --Monotonehell 02:03, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

No, this means 14. Your first year is from age 0 to 1, your second year from 1 to 2 and so forth. Your fourteenth year therefore ends when you reach the age of 14, then you can have sex legally in Hungary!

Chid12 01.00am, 19th April 2006.

You know I sat here and did that math, then I wrote it on a piece of paper and came to completely the wrong conclusion. It's the little things that get me, like daylight saving LOL. --Monotonehell 22:30, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

Images or something

This is turning into a really long document. I felt it was best to try and get as thorough a page as possible. I can't find anything on the internet on the age of consent which is regularly kept up to date. Most lists and things seem a little dated. The best I could find was that EU document but that only deals with EU nations. In any case, I think this presents an opportunity for wikipedia to take a lead and keep a thorough and up-to-date database on it all, collating info from many sources.

Anyway, it all means that the page is rather long and a bit dull. Do you reckon we could add some images or something? There are pictures online of protestors campaigning for an equal age of consent in those nations where it is/was inequal... there's also that picture of the kid jumping off the hay you had which I think is cool, monotonehell.

Any ideas anyone?

Chid12 7.23pm, 21 April 2006

LOL! Don't remind me of the picture fiasco. I love that pic. It seems that we need to find a picture that is very literal and relavent otherwise someone will revert it. Wikimedia hasn't been much help. Perhaps when we get the text sorted out we can think of layout. --Monotonehell 10:17, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

Bulgaria

In the link given as a source for the age of consent in Bulgaria, it is specified that the age of consent is 14, not 16 as the entry for Bulgaria here says. The age of 16 is mentioned there in the context of pornography - namely, it is a criminal offence to create, sell or in any way propagate pornography featuring persons below 16 years of age.

My reading of the act leads me to the following...

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Article 149 of the Bulgarian Criminal Code prohibits an "...act in order to arouse or satisfy a sexual desire without a copulation regarding a person who has not accomplished 14 years..." Article 151 prohibits copulation "with a person who has not accomplished 14 years of age" and also has a provision for punishment if the underage victim does not understand the characteristic or the importance of the act of fornication.

Article 157 (2) prohibits "...homosexual activities with a person under 16 years of age." and also has a provision for punishment if the underage victim does not understand the characteristic or the importance of the 'homosexual activities'. It is worth pointing out the the following provisions of article 157 prohibit 'open or scandalous homosexual activities' or the 'incitement' of others to perform such acts.

The age of consent in Bulgaria is therefore 14 for heterosexual acts and 16 for homosexual acts.

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Does this sound right to everyone? If so I'll update the entry. --Monotonehell 03:56, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

Actually, the English translation is of the version from 2002; article 157., paragraphs (2) and (3) were ammended in 2004 (as seen in the Bulgarian version, which is from 2005) and the age of consent is now 14 for both homosexual and heterosexual sex. If you don't know Bulgarian, just look at the numbers in the Bulgarian version; it's 14, and you can also see there it was last ammended in 2004. Also, Paragraph (4) was removed. --87.126.9.205

Ah thank you, that's something else we need to make note of. So if I just change the aove to read 14 in both cases would that still be correct or were there more changes to the Code? --Monotonehell 13:57, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

I already changed it to just 14, no more changes with regard to age of consent. Maybe the 16 years of age limit for pornography can be mentioned too, or the fact that until recently it was 16 for homosexual sex (under History)?

Malta clarification

Malta

The age of consent in Malta is 12.

198. Whosoever shall, by violence, have carnal knowledge of a person of either sex, shall, on conviction, be liable to imprisonment for a term from three to nine years, with or without solitary confinement.

201. Unlawful carnal knowledge and any other indecent assault, shall be presumed to be accompanied with violence - (a) when it is committed on any person under twelve years of age

202. The punishment prescribed for any of the crimes referred to in the preceding articles of this sub-title, shall be increased by one degree in each of the following cases: (g) when the person carnally known has not completed the age of nine years.

203. (1) Whosoever, by lewd acts, defiles a minor of either sex, shall, on conviction, be liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding three years, with or without solitary confinement:

Aggravating circumstances:

Provided that the offence shall be punishable with imprisonment for a term from three to six years, with or without solitary confinement, in each of the following cases: (a) if the offence is committed on a person who has not completed the age of twelve years, or with violence; (b) if the offence is committed by means of threats or deceit; (c) if the offence is committed by any ascendant by consanguinity or affinity, or by the adoptive father or mother, or by the tutor of the minor, or by any other person charged, even though temporarily, with the care, education, instruction, control or custody of the minor.

Explication:

- "carnal knowlege" (=penetration?) by violence is punishable. However any other actions that are not mentioned in the CC, are not.

- if the "carnal knowledge" is commited to a person under 12 years of age, then it is to be regarded as a "carnal knowlege" by violence

- there is no other age mentioned in the CC, except for "carnal knwoledge" with a minor under 18 years who is under the authority of the criminal.

==> the AOC is 12.

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I've moved the Maltese section here until we can discover a good source to cite. What we have here now borders on original research or personal interpretation. What we need here is a difinitive interpretation of the law. avert.org have Malta listed at 18. --Monotonehell 09:49, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

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The age of consent in Malta is often thought to be 12, because as specified by the Maltese Criminal Code, Section 201 (Presumption of violence in cases of carnal knowledge and indecent assault), which reads: "Unlawful carnal knowledge and any other indecent assault, shall be presumed to be accompanied with violence - (a) when it is committed on any person under twelve years of age; (b) when the person abused was unable to offer resistance owing to physical or mental infirmity, or for any other cause independent of the act of the offender, or in consequence of any fraudulent device used by the offender."

However clause (a) is not stating that "carnal knowledge" involving a person over the age of twelve is not unlawful; it is distinguishing between "unlawful carnal knowledge" and "unlawful carnal knowledge (presumably) accompanied by violence", the phrasing used clearly states that it is possible to have unlawful carnal knowledge with a person older than twelve; in such a case violence cannot be presumed, however the act may still have been unlawful. This legislation suggests that the law considers a child of twelve or under to have been subject to "violence" in such a case, no doubt thereby invoking harsher penalties for an abuser.

Maltese Criminal Code

History

Until 1973, male homosexual acts ("unnatural carnal connection") was prohibited by the Maltese Criminal Code, Section 220. This was repealed in that year.

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The primary Age of consent ist not for Sex only with adults, it is for Sex with everyone. Which is the lowest age, where a young human can propably say: I made Sex. There are in many Nations further law-sections for sex between adults and not adults. In Austria the Age i.e. is 14. Below this a human don't can have consent sex. Also under minors. But minors under 14 have no age of criminal responsibility. Because of this there is no penalty for minors under 14. Over 14 are further limitations at 16 and at 18 for Sex with an adult. --Franz (Fg68at) de:Talk 21:04, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Isle of Man

Shouldn't the Isle of Man's age of consent be there somewhere? Dmn € Դմն 13:27, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Along with a load of other places. If you can cite the relavent law go ahead and add it. :) --Monotonehell 14:27, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Scotland

I removed this bit of silliness:

Sections 7 and 8 provide for specific offences of procuring, abduction and unlawful detention, for which the ages of consent are 18 and 21.

The fact that there are additional provisions in the law to prosecute people who commit certain illegal acts with girls younger than 18 doesn't mean that 18 is the "age of consent" for such acts. It just means that the law is tougher on people who commit the acts with girls younger than 18. (Comment by 86.138.114.34 03:11, 13 November 2006 (UTC))

I was told tonight at a child protection course that males can have heterosexual intercourse at any age. Can someone confirm this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.64.110.150 (talk) 01:32, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Lead paragraph

I reverted a recent edit to the lead paragraph which attempted to introduce new definitions for some terms. This header appears in the same format as the other 5 AoC subpages. Altering one without the others reduces consistency. Also altering the header to suit one section throws the formating of all the other sections in the rubish. It was decided a while ago to focus the thrust of discussion on unfettered age of consent. There is a great deal of variation in close in age exceptions and they need to be explained while unfettered AoC is (fairly) straightfoward. --Monotonehell 18:32, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Ireland, Republic of - needs rewrite

This section has become confused between existing laws and editors' attempts at inserting recent events as well as patent conjecture on behalf of some media outlets. Can people with itimate knowledge of the state of the law please make sense of it? It would be best if any "recent events" be kept in their own section until the legislation is out of flux.

I've moved it from the article's page to here until it reflects our best work. --Monotonehell 09:49, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Unfortunately, that reads like an extremely good summary of what the age actually is... the laws about it are in tatters at the moment, not helped by an incompetent Minister for Justice botching the legislation on the last patch up attempt, meaning it needed patching almost instantly. The proposed legislation will make it much cleaner, but the current state is as below. --85.134.141.187 20:23, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

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Ireland, Republic of

The age of consent in the Republic of Ireland is effectively 17. (Although acts which do not include "carnal knowledge" or acts between males may come under sexual assault which is set at 15 ). However, there are now plans to lower this to 16

However part of the Statute dealing with heterosexual age of consent in Ireland (that relating to carnal knowledge of a girl under the age of fifteen years) was ruled unconstitutional by the Irish Supreme Court on 2006-05-24, on the grounds that there was no defence allowed on the basis of reasonable belief about the age of the girl, and so this section of the statute has ceased to have force. Link to court decision

On 2006-06-02 the government rushed emergency legislation, the Criminal Law (Sexual Offences) Bill 2006, through both houses of the Oireachtas. The legislation has been widely criticised as flawed, particularly in the way it discriminates against young boys who engage in underage sex. [2]

Criminal Law Amendment Act 1935: "Any person who unlawfully and carnally knows any girl who is of or over the age of fifteen years and under the age of seventeen years shall be guilty of a misdemeanour." {Section 2(1)} or attempts such an act {Section 2(2)}

Criminal Law Sexual Offences Act 1993: "A person who commits or attempts to commit an act of buggery with a person under the age of 17 years (other than a person to whom he is married or to whom he believes with reasonable cause he is married) shall be guilty of an offence." {Section 3}

"A male person who commits or attempts to commit an act of gross indecency with another male person under the age of 17 years shall be guilty of an offence and shall be liable on conviction on indictment to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 2 years." {Section 4}

Criminal Law (Sexual Offences) Bill 2006 as passed by both Houses: "Any person who engages in a sexual act with a child who is under the age of 15 years shall be guilty of an offence and shall be liable on conviction on indictment to imprisonment for life or a lesser term of imprisonment."

"Any person who engages in a sexual act with a child who is under the age of 17 years shall be guilty of an offence and shall, subject to subsection (3), be liable on conviction on indictment— (a) to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 5 years, or (b) if he or she is a person in authority, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 10 years."

"A female child under the age of 17 years shall not be guilty of an offence under this Act by reason only of her engaging in an act of sexual intercourse."

• Ireland's bishops voice opposition to lowering age of consent
• Criminal Law (Amendment) Act 1935
• Criminal Law (Sexual Offences) Act 1993
• Criminal Law (Sexual Offences) Bill 2006 as passed by both Houses (pdf)

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Italy

I am not convinced that the information about Italy is correct. I come from Italy and my understanding is that the age of consent is 18. If the differences of age is less than 4 then it can go down to 14 (although permission from the parents might be necessary). Also note people under the Italian jurisdiction cannot have sex with anyone under the age of 16 abroad, even if the local law permits it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 141.35.12.219 (talk • contribs) 15:17, 3 February 2007.

Okay so convince yourself. :) See if you can find the legislation / law and verify your understanding. If you can please edit the article and include your sources. The current reference is in Italian and isn't what I'd call reliable. But it seems (Sezione II: DEI DELITTI CONTRO LA LIBERTA' PERSONALE - starting with - Art. 609 quater Atti sessuali con minorenne) confirms the text in the article, unless there's some facts that are not obvious. --Monotonehell 17:27, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

Ummm isn't the biological parent part of "The age of consent if one of the participants has some kind of influence on the other is 16 (e.g. teacher, tutor, biological or adoptive parent)". Superfluous? I would have though this was illegal at any age... Wheatleya (talk) 16:36, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Of course not. If a 20 year old sleeps with her uncle or something, thats perfectly legal, albeit disgusting, even though he is in a position of authority over her. It does however, add credence if she later claims rape. --Estrill5766 (talk) 18:42, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

I'm Italian and I can confirm that the age is 14. This limit is elevated to 16 in case the partner has any kind of psycological power on the minor (a teacher or similar). --Pino (talk) 00:21, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Equal age of consent

Gilbraltar and Guernsey now have an fully equal and gender-neutral age of consent at 16 for all regardless since 2011, the only other issue is Bermuda's AOC (North America); Which currently is 16 for heterosexual sex and female-female sex, 18 for just male-male sex. (no Bill in Bermuda to equalize the AOC at this point in time) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 58.168.60.109 (talk) 05:14, 9 April 2007 (UTC).

UPDATE:

• Guernsey since March 2010 has an equal age of consent of 16 for everyone now. Read this: [3]

• Gibraltar since August 2011 has an equal age of consent of 16 for everyone now. Read this: [4]. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.148.207.230 (talk) 15:55, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

• Only Bermuda's age of consent is still unequal as of 2011 of 18 for gay men - 16 for heterosexuals and lesbians. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.148.207.230 (talk) 15:57, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Spain

In a research paper published by the UK government in 2002 as a policy background for the Sexual Offences Act 2003, it was stated that

"While many European countries have lower ages of consent, comparisons are potentially misleading. For example, Spain has a low age of consent (12)," which is in contradiction to the age of consent given here, which is 13.

The research paper is available on the UK parliament website here:

http://www.parliament.uk/commons/lib/research/rp2003/rp03-061.pdf

The quote which states the Spanish age of consent can be found on page 10.

Hypnoticmonkey 10:00, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

That paper's info is a bit out of date. The AOC in Spain was raised from 12 to 13 in 1999. However we still need a citation of the legislation. Luckilly Interpol have recently updated their page which last time I looked was also woefully out of date. [5] It's in Spainsh but is fairly clear if you can read a tiny bit of Spanish. I'm going to add it in. I'd also add a quote but the link seems to be down now. [6]. I'll try again later. --Monotonehell 11:36, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

I've found a much better source and have worked it in along with a direct Spanish quote and a terrible attempt at translation. --Monotonehell 12:10, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Foetus consent?

In the history section, it says: "foetus' were allowed to give consent, in this case the age difference for the 2 parties could not be greater than 3 years". That seems nonsensical. Is it just wrong, or can that section be expanded (and referenced)to explain more?--PhilMacD (talk) 12:40, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Portugal - new Penal Code as of September 2007

Portugal has a new Penal Code that equalises ages of consent for all sexual orientations, according to this news article (in Portugese). The changes took effect last month. 217.34.77.110 10:16, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Liechtenstein

Is Liechtenstein following Switzerland (16) on this or possibly Austria (14) ? --81.105.245.251 22:52, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

14, the whole Criminal Code in Liechtenstein is similar to Austria--Olliha (talk) 20:26, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

Iceland

I think its 15 it was recently changed from 14.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 157.157.214.16 (talk) 19:35, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Map vs Text inconsistency.

I noticed the text stated the age of concent is 12, but the map states it's 13 or 14 (can't make out the color). Maybe this should be looked at, and also look at if there are more errors? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.198.240.84 (talk) 15:56, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Slovakia changed the age of consent from 15 to 14 from 1st of January 2009. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.8.187.198 (talk) 11:37, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Overview

I removed this section as it provides no added value to the article. People will not be coming here and searching by age. Add to this the poor formatting, poor use of capitalisation of words and general untidiness of the section, I propose that it be removed. The lead for the article already does some summarising too.-Localzuk^(talk) 11:30, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

Gilbraltar and Guernsey

Both Gilbraltar and Guernsey since 2011 now have an equal age of consent set at 16 for everyone—Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.148.207.230 (talk) 11:16, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Both Gibralter and Guernsey since 2011 under new laws that recently passed their own Legislature has updated their age of consent laws set at 16. Read this: <ref[7]</ref>. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.148.207.230 (talk) 15:42, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Iceland

The AOC is 15, the colour of the map needs to be changed (from 14 to 15).

The age of consent in Iceland is 15, as specified by Section 202, which reads: "Anyone who has carnal intercourse or other sexual intimacy with a child younger than 15 years shall be subject to imprisonment for at least 1 year and up to 16 years."

202. gr. Hver sem hefur samræði eða önnur kynferðismök við barn, yngra en 15[fimmtán] ára, skal sæta fangelsi ekki skemur en 1[eitt] ár og allt að 16[sextán] árum —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.121.10.17 (talk) 14:01, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Vatican

While I am not stating that the information provided is necessarily wrong, it is important to verify the statements made. As of yet, there are no credible citations to support the statements made. I have reviewed several sources and, while this has been widely quoted on the internet, there are no legitimate sources to support the statements. If no one supports the statements with legitimate citations, I will remove this section in 30 days. I believe it is more important to provide correct information, than to provide possibly correct information that will be misquoted. Again, I am not disputing the material, on the grounds of an ideological conflict, I am merely disputing it on a lack of credibility. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jogshmo (talk • contribs) 00:33, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

I'm willing to bet that it is a wind up; on most of criminal law Vatican City is in line with Italy - so why should it be different on this issue? No, I can't prove that statement... 213.107.112.125 (talk) 00:26, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

I am confused by this one.

1. The Vatican adopted the laws of Italy enforced at the time of 31 December 1924 under the Latern Treaty. The age of consent in Italy at that time was 12
2. ; however, the Vatican didn't adopt Italian laws when those laws were in conflict with Canon Law, and Canon Law directs that sex before marriage is illicit; so consent to sex lies with consent to marriage—the consent to marriage is 16 for boys and 14 for girls.

Would anyone like to clear up this issue? Thanks. GrecoBomb (talk) 22:17, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

The "consent to marriage" is a civil or moral law. No sex before marriage is a moral code. There is today no criminal punishment in romanic/european/angloamericanic laws for sex before marriage, even in the canonical law (CIC). Otherwise all sex before marriage could be punishable, even if you are 20 or 70. (There could be only exceptions in the civil/criminal/common law for allowing sex in the marriage before age of consent.)

You should not have sex before marrige, but it is only moraly wrong. Your "punishement" can be given at the confession in the church.

The age of consent is in the criminal law. There is punishment if one is under the age (as long he reached the age of punishment.)

Vatican use italian criminal law, if it is not against canonical law. Criminal law say: punishment if you have sex with a child before age of 12. Is this against canonical law? No! Canonical law has only a older age for marriage and the moral code, that sex before marriage is bad. --Franz (Fg68at) de:Talk 04:26, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

There was made a change with a horrible failure!

Reuters "Vatican ends automatic adoption of Italian law" could speek about civil law (where is now used Italic law of 1942 in the static version of 2008), but surly not about criminal law!

• In 1929, in the creation of Vatican City, it takes the Codice Penale (CP) from Italy from 1889 in the stable version of 1929-06-08 as it own criminal law (S: Art. 4 [old version] Art. 3 Legge sulle fonti del diritto, N.II., 7. Juni 1929)
• In 1969 it changes the CP-version to the point of 1924-12-31 (S: Art. 39 Legge che modifica la legislazione penale e la legislazione processuale penale, N.L, 21. Juni 1969, in wich Art. 4 of Legge sulle fonti del diritto 1929 is changed.) (primaly because death penalty wich was reintroduced 1926 in Italy)
• In 1930 Italy made a new criminal law, wich has no effect to Vatican. (there the age of consent goes from 12 to 14)
• 2008: in law Nr. LXXI Legge sulle fonti del diritto / Act on Sources of Law/ "Gesetz über Rechtsquellen" from 2008-10-01, in force with 2009-01-01 (German Version, Italian), written:
  • a) in Art 3: italian law is used, if there is no law from vatican, excluding if it is aginst the law of god
  • b) in Art 4: italian civil law is used from 1942-03-16 with the changes over the time until 2009-01-01 excluding some points
  • Art 5: civil procedure, Art. 6 judge in civil law
  • c) in Art 7 (criminal law): until a new order comes and if it not against the excludings from Art 3 (law of god) it is used the criminal law from italy, how is set in force with law Nr. II, Art. 3, from 1929-06-07, and the vaticanic changes until now. (not the italian changes!)
  • this means: Vatican use until now italian criminal law in the version of 1924 (eventually with some mininal overriding vaticanic changes, like i.e. financial laws), for the age of consent this made 12, like italy 1924/1929.

Aiding source from 2012 about financal laws of HS/VCS, [8] PDF-P. 54, Nr. 206: As was noted earlier, by virtue of Art. 7 of Act No. LXXI on the sources of law of 1 October 2008 (see Annex XII) the Italian Criminal Code, as it stood at the time of the Lateran Treaty in 1929, applies within the HS/VCS unless modified by a subsequent enactment. It was confirmed in the course of the November MONEYVAL on-site visit that changes to the Italian Criminal Code are not automatically adopted. Developments in Italian law, and more widely, are monitored and modernising legislation is enacted in the HS/VCS on an ad hoc basis. (The change 1929/1924 from 1969, it seams they have no knowledge of this) --Franz (Fg68at) de:Talk 03:49, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

Correction: It seems that the civil law was also definitive described since 1929. The "automatic" changes from Reuters was for other italian laws - beside civil- and criminal-law-code. --Franz (Fg68at) de:Talk 21:52, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

The section on the Vatican appears to be original research. None of the citations there points to a source stating the actual age of consent in Vatican City. Instead, the paragraph describes the Lateran Treaty and a prior practice of automatically adopting Italian law. From this, it is inferred that the age of consent is the same as Italy's age of consent. The article further cites the marriage age under Canon Law as providing the "true age of consent." This seems wrong to me as well. Canon law does not speak to consent to sexual acts. It only prescribes a minimum age for consent to marriage. Sex outside of marriage is already illicit and it seems absurd to say that Canon Law by setting a marriage age is delineating age boundaries within a class of forbidden activity. The minimum marriage age set by Canon Law has no bearing on what age two people may have sex outside of marriage. In any event, the paragraph merely draws this inference and fails to site any support. This blog post is the only reputable source I could find containing a direct statement of Vatican City's age of consent. According to the Italian Embassy official quoted therein, the age of consent in Vatican City is 12. If there are no objections, I intend to replace the current section on the Vatican with information from that source. Dmcw127 (talk) 15:17, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

Even if it where original resarch in the criminal law, it would not so bad. The problem is to false interpret the news from reuters. (see above). I have now all original textes. Someone can translate it better in english.

• 1929 there is a general clause to take all italian law subsitutiary (Art. 3), als long as it is not against the Ten Commandments, gods law, canonical law or the concordate between vatican and italy. But some important laws are specific defined, so the criminal law in Art. 4. It is the italian penal code from 1889 with all changes until the law coming into effect 1929-06-08.

4. Sotto le riserve specificate nell'articolo precedente, si osserva nella Città del Vaticano il vigente Codice penale del Regno d'Italia, insieme alle leggi che l'hanno modificato o integrato ed ai relativi regolamenti, fino all'entrata in vigore della presente. [...]
N[o].II. Legge sulle fonti del diritto, Art. 4, 1929-06-07 (in effect the day after). In: ACTA APOSTOLIGAE SEDIS SUPPLEMENTO PER LE LEGGI E DISPOSIZIONI DELLO STATO DELLA CITTÀ DEL VATICANO. PONTIFICATO DI S. S. PIO XI - ANNO Vili, TIPOGRAFIA POLIGLOTTA VATICANA, CITTÀ DEL VATICANO, 1929, (Online at vaticanstate.va, PDF-p. 7)

raw translation: 4. If it not against Art 3. the vaticanstate take the criminal law from the kingdom of italy with the changes until this law coming into effect. [... Other is about murder of head of states and the pope]

• Italy had a complete new penal code in 1930. But with the above, this had no effect on the vatican state.
• In 1926 the death penalty came into law in italy. Not much more changed in the law between 1924 and 1929. So, they put the entry point to 1925:

Art. 39. - Per gli effetti degli articoli 4 e 7 della legge 7 giugno 1929 n. II non si tiene conto delle leggi e regolamenti entrati in vigore in Italia dopo il 31 dicembre 1924, né del codice penale militare e delle disposizioni che lo hanno modificato o integrato.
N[o].L. Legge che modifica la legislazione penale e la legislazione processuale penale, Art. 39, 1969-06-21. In: ACTA APOSTOLICAE SEDIS. COMMENTARIUM OFFICIALE An. Et Vol. LXI, TYPIS POLYGLOTTIS VATICANIS, 1969, S. 25 (Online at vatican.va, PDF-p. 900, AAS 61 (1969))

raw translation: Art. 39. Within Art. 4 and 7 from the law from 1929-06-07 Nr. II the changes after 1924-12-31 are not to consider, also not the changes of the military penal code.

• The law from 2008 overriding the law Nr. II from 1929. But it states that the criminal law is as it was stated in law Nr. II with all vaticanic changes after. So much, the same status as before. The new rule not to automaticly take the italian changes is only for the general clause--Franz (Fg68at) de:Talk 19:45, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
  • If I may add some words in support of Franz's position, who has been struggling a bit with his knowledge of both the English and Italian languages: Looking at the 1929 statute as amended in 1969 and again in 2008, Vatican law currently makes a static reference to the Italian criminal code as of 31 December 1924. The wording "fino all'entrata in vigore della presente" (underlined by Franz above, meaning "[with the amendments] up to the coming into force of the present law") is quite clear on this. This was reaffirmed by deliberately moving the time of the "freeze" with the 1969 amendment and by making another clear reference in the 2008 amendment. --Gnom (talk) 10:34, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

legal age a girl may leave parental home to live with someone

i wish to know whether a girl of 14 years of age has legal right even if parents do not approve or agree to move into the home of a male friend....i ask as i am confused seeing spanish law states the legal age of consent regarding sex is 13 so would that age apply or would she need be older...thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.166.223.43 (talk) 08:52, 3 February 2010 (UTC) p.s. is it her age automatically gives her right to choose or does she need permission of the courts system —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.166.223.43 (talk) 08:55, 3 February 2010 (UTC) signed ....K.G. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.166.223.43 (talk) 08:59, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Netherlands - Misleading?

The Netherlands section appears to be discussing statutory rape, not the age of consent. The texts quoted are discussing the age at which a person can have sex with an adult (16), but does not mention the age at which a person may legally have sex with their peers. I have heard that the age for this is 12, but this may be rumour. 79.78.246.91 (talk) 19:34, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

The following UK territories regarding the age of consent as of [2011]

The following UK territories that HAVE an equal age of consent as of [September 2011]:

• Jersey, Guernsey, [Gibraltar], Isle of Man, Northern Ireland, Scotland, England, Wales, Falkland Islands, Sandwich Islands and Ireland^ (^Ireland is not officially part of the UK [since 1922]).

The following UK territories that DO NOT have an equal age of consent as of [September 2011]:

• Bermuda.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.148.207.230 (talk) 16:10, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Montenegro?

The newest country in Europe has yet to surface here! I'm guessing that it will have inherited Serbia's laws, but there's no reference to it yet. Ender's Shadow Snr (talk) 00:26, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

New map

How about creating a new map only for Europe (especially since there are some inconsistencies on the current map)? Wouldn't it be better, clearer, easier for the reader?

The worldwide map should stay in the main Age of consent, while a continental map is better for this page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.25.175.55 (talk) 23:01, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

Map

Half of the countries on the map have the wrong color, especially in Africa. Someone needs to go carefully through Ages of consent in Africa, Ages of consent in Asia, Ages of consent in Europe, Ages of consent in North America and Ages of consent in South America and correct the map. Or better, create a new map, the colors on this map are problematic, as they are barely distinguishable (eg 13, 14 are nearly the same on the map). The map cannot stay any longer in such a state. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.25.174.71 (talk) 10:35, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

Putting back the same old map, but 'cropping' it, as user:Heard tried won has done is not OK, Iceland and Lithuania have the wrong colors, and the shades of blue on this map are barely distinguishable - other editors have also complained about this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_talk:Age_of_Consent.png#Color_coding. Someone will eventually make a new map for Europe, meanwhile this map cannot stay: no map is definitely better than a bad map.

The map added by user:Heard tried won, a cropped version of the old map showing only Europe, was also very confusing, in that the image showed only Europe, but it retained the old legend which showed the color codes for the ages 9, 12, 19, 20, 'must be married' and 'no law', though no countries in Europe have such an age of consent.

Map is good enough and very essential for the article. Wrong colors were for African countries not European countries as claimed. I have uploaded new version of the file with more clarity, now give a look. Heard tried won (talk) 08:32, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

The map is not good at all. Iceland needs to be changed to 15, and Lithuania to 16. And the ages of 12, 19, 20, 'must be married' and 'no law' do not belong in this legend, no European country has such ages of consent The shades of blue are very confusing, on the map 13 looks likes 12 and 14 like 13; the fact that the map retains 12 on its legend does not help at all. Others have also complained about the color code: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_talk:Age_of_Consent.png#Color_coding. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.25.172.238 (talk) 14:40, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

All your feedbacks incorporated. This should be ok now. Now one fewer blue, and blue's give idea that age of consent is < 16 even if you say they confuse. Heard tried won (talk) 05:09, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Why is there coloration for 20 on the map when all the countries set their limits between 13 and 18 according to the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.162.63.171 (talk) 09:07, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

"...Punishable with the stakes" or the stocks?

Under Denmark, it says:

Until 1866, interaction "against nature" [anal intercourse] was punishable with the stakes.

What precisely does this punishment mean? Does this mean burning at the stake, impalement with stakes, some sort of crucifixion, or is it a misspelling of "stocks"? If you google "punishable with the stakes" (without the quotes) you can see the range of possibilities that came up when I tried to find out if this was an idiom I was not aware of. Putting quotes around it didn't help either. :)

That's about all I can do with this question, so thanks in advance for your help. --Geekdiva (talk) 05:58, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

broken link fixed but almost certainly indicates a far bigger problem

In the United Kingdom (and dependencies) section, subsection England and Wales, under further reading there is a link to the sexual offences act 2000 but the link takes you to a more general page which requires two further clicks to get to the correct page http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2000/44/contents

The link did say http://www.opsi.gov.uk/ACTS/acts2000/20000044.htm It appears the site has been re-arranged and the link defaulted to a 'parent' page. I have changed the link, but the link above it warrants checking, as probably do all "www.opsi.gov.uk" links throughout Wikipedia. Not an enviable task! Adagio67 (talk) 12:01, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

age difference between lovers

In some European legislations tha age of consent is lower if the age difference between lovers is small. This article doesn't mention it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.7.146.136 (talk) 01:18, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

The age shown in bold in the unfettered age of consent, as done by convention in all articles dealing with the age of consent in certain regions. Where there are close in age exemptions they are mentioned. Also, countries have close in age exemptions arising 'naturally' due to the age of criminal responsibility- young children can't be charged with a crime, or, depending on the jurisdiction, charges against minors can be dropped if there is no "public interest" in prosecution, and so on. 02:51, 6 February 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.25.162.186 (talk)

Russia

Since March 2012, sex with any person who reached physical sexual maturity is allowed, even if under 16. Please correct.--188.32.211.131 (talk) 14:36, 28 March 2013 (UTC)