Talk:6.5×50mmSR Arisaka

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Use in action ?[edit]

This article says nothing about its success or otherwise in action with Japanese forces. Since it was the main rifle and machine-gun cartidge at the start of the China and Pacific wars, and the whole purpose of this cartridge was military, this article should cover this. Rcbutcher (talk) 00:51, 17 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

"Historically it has been referred to as 6.5 Jap"??[edit]

While strictly accurate, "6.5 Jap" is not a common term outside the US vernacular, and it isn't even particularly common in the US. Is a single country's limited vernacular worthy of mention? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.99.248.131 (talk) 12:52, 27 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

===Fairly common in the United States to refer to it as 6.5 Japanese so as not to be confused with something like 6.5 Swedish (or 6.5 Swede). Here are offerings by Graf & Sons, which is a large seller of ammo and reloading equipment: https://www.grafs.com/catalog/category/categoryId/164

6.5mm as intermediate[edit]

https://gunsmagazine.com/rifles/intermediate-cartridges/

"Germany developed the 7.92x33mm Kurz as the first Intermediate cartridge, and its rifle was, at one time or the other, MP43, MP44 or StG 44."

http://quarryhs.co.uk/Assault.htm

"It can be argued that neither the Cei-Rigotti nor the Federov Avtomat used "intermediate" cartridges, as the 6.5mm Carcano and Arisaka were the front-line rifle/MG rounds in the Italian and Japanese armies respectively. This is true, but it is worth bearing in mind that, in terms of calibre and muzzle energy, they were in the same class as the present-day 6.8x43 Remington SPC and 6.5x38 Grendel, which are today regarded by many as ideal intermediate cartridges for assault rifles."

The second source here I think is the more important one, while I do not deny the 6.5mm's power is reminiscent of a later intermediate cartridge, its role is what matters. If the only thing that was taken into account was the terminal ballistics, then we would be saying that the PPSH-41 was the first PDW because 7.62 Tokarev has a lot more velocity than 9mm or .45 ACP. In actuality, the PPSH was a submachine gun with a handgun round like any other, and the Type 38 was a bolt action rifle with a rifle round like any other. Loafiewa (talk) 12:13, 8 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"Role" is irrelevant. They are not called "intermediate-role" cartridges. They are called "intermediate-power" cartridges, so power is all that matters. The difference between a PDW and a submachine gun is also irrelevant. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.70.13.107 (talk) 07:06, 5 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]