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it is being used, but several editors keep removing articles from the category. There are a lot of similar categories, this one should exist as well. (and it was created after another CFD, part of consensus, possibly unlike other similar cats) If you want to, get a normal CFD. Please do not remove articles from the category, they are relevant. denizTC 03:04, 7 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
No they are not, I'm following a Wikipedia guideline words to avoid, and I am avoiding it right now. Artaxiad 03:15, 7 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
then use a normal CFD, removing articles and then saying that they are not used is not good in my opinion. denizTC 03:27, 7 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
A chocolate chip cookie
Last time, this category was (re)created by Artaxiad a few days after the deletion of another cat. Just one or two days after the creation, all the articles were removed from category and immediately after that Artaxiad speedy deleted it as being the creator, because supposedly it was not used. Now the creator of the category is someone else, so it cannot be done this time. This does not seem to be a good faith nomination. I think these category: Terrorism in X's can be a compromise made during the discussions, so they exist. Another reason to their existence might be that being in a category only shows relevancy, not an assertion. All the Cat:Terrorism in X are kept, this one should also be. And the (designated) terrorist org's in Turkey should be put under this category. At least 5-10 articles can be under this category. denizTC 03:25, 7 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
They don't accurately fit the description of "Terrorism" stop sweating this issue and go do something else useful because you are not going to add it. As long as I am here. Artaxiad 03:26, 7 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
OK, master. I am not for edit wars, but I guess you are. denizTC 03:27, 7 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Good boy lol. Artaxiad 03:29, 7 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
If you think they don't fit to the desciptions of terrorism, then you are entitled to make those edits and remove them, just like I am entitled to add them to the category, but I don't like your reasons of speedy deletions (the previous one and this one). You are yourself removing them, and saying that they are not used. All these organizations are recognized as being terrorist by Turkey, US, usually EU and a number of other states, so you opinion might be a minority opinion, but it does not matter. denizTC 03:33, 7 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
So please take this speedy deletion request back. You might use a CFD instead denizTC 03:34, 7 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Just a quick note: Try to take it easy guys :) By the way, as far as this category goes: Now you have to realize that this is not a Turkey-only problem. Such categories have been the subject of debate for every single country, and there were numerous CFD, speedies, edit-wars over tens of "Terrorism in X" categories. So what I am saying is that this category will most probably be an empty/barely used cat, but will stay, simply because this is a Wikipedia-wide problem that needs to be tackled on a higher level (Wikirocracy :)) and because there is not much we can do about it ourselves. just my two cents :) Baristarim 03:58, 7 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I would prefer having no Terrorism in X categories, but they exist, Islamist terrorism exists as well. Like I said, this might be, for instant, a result of some compromises/discussions during the 'banning' of the word terrorism. If they exist, then they should very well be populated, but I don't want to start edit wars. Artaxiad, I think what you did last time was like a trick, and I am upset by that, please don't do such a thing again. denizTC 06:16, 7 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
What? was a trick. Artaxiad 06:52, 7 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Creating the cat and then speedy deleting it just a few days after it, using your position as the creator, after the cat was emptied by Khoikhoi. But you might not have been aware of it being emptied. I should assume good faith. Anyway, let me sleep, bye. denizTC 06:58, 7 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
You can sleep on your own heh, the only reason later it was deleted was because some warned me about the words to avoid since I have forgotten and than speedy requested it. Artaxiad 06:59, 7 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Done Artaxiad 03:42, 7 April 2007 (UTC)