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Hi! This is my talk page, feel free to drop me a message. To experienced editors: feel free to stalk my talk page and reply to any threads here.To admins: I prefer that my talk page remain unprotected, even if it's being vandalized. Such edits do not particularly bother me and I prefer to remain accessible to anyone who would like to reach me. However, if the volume of vandalism is so high that no other solution would stop disruption, I don't mind if my talk page is semi-protected for a day or two. Hopefully, this is a rare occurrence.

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Reminder to vote now to select members of the first U4C[edit]

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Whether to take your advice seriously[edit]

Per discussions at Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2024 April 26, the two cover arts of You'll Never Get to Heaven (If You Break My Heart) have been deleted without opposition.

If you feel deleting those covers was a mistake, please contact the deleting admin (Fastily) or have those deletions reviewed at WP:DRV. Otherwise, why take your advice seriously that you gave me, i.e. telling me to discontinue replacing cover arts, if you're unwilling to challenge the deletions? George Ho (talk) 03:32, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@George Ho: I wasn't notified of those FFD's and honestly am not interested in fighting with you about every cover art of every song. You know that the general community consensus is against you here and you've acknowledged as much; this isn't an area I care passionately about. Elli (talk | contribs) 03:36, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Well, then I insist that you don't tell me anymore to stop. All right? George Ho (talk) 03:38, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@George Ho: again, this isn't something I want to spend time debating. You know that I think you should stop such edits, and when I see edits you make that I find problematic, I will challenge them. My intent isn't to hound you, though. That doesn't mean I agree with your edits, just that I have better things to do. Elli (talk | contribs) 03:53, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
when I see edits you make that I find problematic, I will challenge them. How else will you challenge my edits then? ANI? ArbCom? Also, I don't have to invite you to FFD discussions, including ones I started, right?
My intent isn't to hound you, though. That doesn't mean I agree with your edits, just that I have better things to do. I dunno. Your intent to challenge my edits make what I'm quoting self-contradictory, eh? George Ho (talk) 07:03, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@George Ho: no, you don't have to invite me to discussions (though you should have notified me of the discussion for the files I challenged your CSD's on).
Your intent to challenge my edits make what I'm quoting self-contradictory, eh? No. I am not going to look through your edits regularly and challenge anything I find objectionable, but if I happen to come across edits from you that are problematic, I will challenge them. This is how I interact with basically everyone on the project.
Do you want me to take you to ANI? Elli (talk | contribs) 07:10, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(though you should have notified me of the discussion for the files I challenged your CSD's on) I can't help wonder why you've not participate in FFD discussions as much as you want.
Do you want me to take you to ANI? Not necessarily. Actually, I really think you didn't have to challenge my edits just because you think general consensus wouldn't go along with my edits. WP:EDITCONSENSUS and/or WP:DISCUSSCONSENSUS should help you decide whether or not to challenge them.
If edits I made aren't challenged, then consensus (favoring edits on certain articles) would be implied... right? I took this as true in certain cases. Since you're not willing to challenge the deletions, I can imply "no contest" from you this time.
Honestly, my issue with "general consensus" is their high emphases on rock songs and classics that still attract later generations to this day. The editors never seem to care much about perspectives of consumers from the past and intent of those who distributed singles in the vinyl era. Even WikiProject Music/Album/Songs members seem to be fans of rock or highly-popular classics or first-run contemporaries... or Madonna? George Ho (talk) 07:49, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
this isn't an area I care passionately about. If the area you were referring to is cover arts or music, then why trying to follow what you assume is usual "consensus" and then challenge my edits?
Again, if you're not that passionate, then try to stay out of my hair please, including areas that I'm interested in. All right? George Ho (talk) 15:04, 4 May 2024 (UTC) Striking out my shameful comment; see more at ANI (diff). —George Ho (talk) 00:39, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Michigan Prop 3 Data[edit]

Hi, i was wondering where you found the county level results for michigan prop 3 to make your map for that page. i’m interested in getting it for a project, but i can not find the data on the mi sos website. JanWapiti (talk) 08:05, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@JanWapiti: are you talking about 2018 or 2022? Elli (talk | contribs) 10:31, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
2022. the referendum on abortion. JanWapiti (talk) 15:35, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@JanWapiti: it's at the bottom of the spreadsheet you can download from the Secretary of State's website. Go to here and then click "Data", then "TAB-delimited by County". Elli (talk | contribs) 17:44, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
oh, okay. i think i had been misreading the spreadsheet. thank you so much! :3 JanWapiti (talk) 20:09, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@JanWapiti glad I could help :) Elli (talk | contribs) 01:27, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for 2010 Oklahoma State Question 755[edit]

On 15 May 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article 2010 Oklahoma State Question 755, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the U.S. state of Oklahoma was not allowed to ban Sharia law? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/2010 Oklahoma State Question 755. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, 2010 Oklahoma State Question 755), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

 — Amakuru (talk) 00:03, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hook update
Your hook reached 18,546 views (772.8 per hour), making it one of the most viewed hooks of May 2024 – nice work!

GalliumBot (talkcontribs) (he/it) 03:28, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from PrinceofPunjab (11:45, 15 May 2024)[edit]

Hello,

I wanted to ask that If a source website is asking for cookies does that means it should be removed ? Also, do website necessarily needs to be related to the subject of the article or a simple news article who also confirms the information will also work ?

Thank You. --PrinceofPunjabTALK 11:45, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@PrinceofPunjab: hi. No, a website doesn't need to be removed because it wants to set cookies. Also not exactly sure what your second question is asking. Independent secondary sources that contain significant coverage are preferable, but passing mentions of some details can also be fine, so long as the detail is noteworthy enough for inclusion. Elli (talk | contribs) 22:14, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from A-Ousadden (19:54, 15 May 2024)[edit]

Hello. I created this account for the only purpose of renaming the English page about Theodore Kaczinski, because I find it disrespectful to his memory to call him first "Ted". His nickname refers to his illegal activities but as he is presumed to be one of the brightest human beings ever born, he deserves more than that. I do not find it fair as the nickname "Ted" was the one the FBI gave him. It would be nice if you could remove the nickname for the title page and the paragraphs that use it abusively. --A-Ousadden (talk) 19:54, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@A-Ousadden: hi; thanks for reaching out. You can open a requested move at Talk:Ted Kaczynski. Elli (talk | contribs) 22:15, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 16 May 2024[edit]

Question from Car man311 (20:59, 24 May 2024)[edit]

I've just started on WIki. I need help from other to build a page and understand the best way to do it.... --Car man311 (talk) 20:59, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]